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Originally Posted by ReXtN View Post

Hey guys, I have flashed my Zotac GTX 780ti with the Skyn3t BIOS(Thank you Skyn3t), and it works great biggrin.gif

The Voltage is now unlocked to 1.2120V on the Core.
With this BIOS I can't OC higher than i could with my stock BIOS.. The higest OC Im able to be stable @ is 1241MHz. Im able to hit this clockspeed no matter if the Voltage slider is @ stock or at 1.2120V...
I have tried using Trixx, OC Guru, Asus GPU Tweak, Afterburner, NV Inspector and Precision X, all with the same result..

When i monitor the Voltage, i can see that the Volt is at 1.2120V if the card needs it no matter what i set it to. So if I set it to stock Voltage, and with 1241MHz coreclock, the GPU is running @ 1.2120V with 1241MHz coreclock. But if I have stock clockspeeds and stock voltage, the volt is like 1.07V instead. And as I increase the clocspeeds, the Volt rises with the rising clockspeed. This happens if the slider is set to stock, or if the slider is set to max(1.2120V), the only difference is that when the Volt is @ stock, the Voltage drops when @ idle, and when Im using max it is staying @ 1.2120V even when Im @ idle.

What do you guys think this could be? is it normal for the Skyn3t BIOS to act this way?
And I would like to get 1.3V on the Core. Is it a BIOS or a tweak that ist able to do 1.3V?

I used the GTX 780ti Zotac BIOS, the 80.80.30.00.01. Can i use another type of BIOS? like use the Asus Matrix, or the Galaxy HOF BIOS instead?

I hope this made sense to you guys wink.gif

No, you cant go over 1,212V without a hard mod by soldering a resistor to increase the voltage, no software can give you that (believe me/my Brother and many others tried) only nvidia and/or close partners could develop a software tool for that but its not going to happen!
If the bios belongs to a reference card despite the brand you can flash it without a problem as the PCB is the same, but there are structural differences with non-reference cards that can render the bios not usable for your card and you would have to flash back or be unable to flash and had to use a different way to flash back.
Sometimes voltage and clocks get stuck due to profiles or driver quirks, when that happens and the "reset" button on precisionx or AB doesnt work, try to re-install drivers and/or OC software making sure you delete their install folder! thumb.gif

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Originally Posted by achilles73 View Post

Hi,

Yesterday i flashed my MSI TF OC Gaming 780ti, with the "new" skyn3t msi gaming bios from the first page, but "things" don't work...
I previously had the "standard" skyn3t msi bios and everything worked excellent.
I flash it using Ez3flash, choose option 1 and 5, rebooted, booted to windows, unninstalled previously
geforce drivers with DDU, reinstalled the drivers again (337.50).

Everything appears to be working ok, but i started to see that i can't acess nvidia control panel,
nvidia inspector didn't work, and GPUZ show me, something that i dont know to interpreter...
That my card/gpu it wasn't properly detected, maybe ? (i unninstalled/reinstalled drivers 3 times with DDU)

GPUz info: (confirms that the new bios is flashed)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qiaochz1efgooj3/780ti.PNG

For now i flashed back the "standard" skyn3t msi bios, following the exact same steps,
and everything is working fine again.

Any clues why with this bios things didn't work ? Are anyone using this bios with the MSI TF OC Gaming 780ti ?

Thanks,
JE

I need you and others that flashed the MSI gaming bios and its not working to post the bios version you see in GPUz please! thumb.gif

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Originally Posted by levelup1 View Post

So I been trying alot to oc my reference 780 ti with skyn3ts bios, seems 1205mhz on the core is the maximum i can achieve with a 230mhz on the memory clock. (sk hynix).
Which in my opinion is quite low but things happen right tongue.gif. I've got some questions tho

When i play or benchmark my "power %" in precision x is never above 103% on benchmarks and around 90% playing games, eventho the slider is pushed to 200% on the power target, I'm using pci express 2.0 could this be it? Or is it normal 103% is the highest? And sometimes the power % dips to around 50% which causes a lag spike that is quite annoying frown.gif. Oh and when a game/benchmark crashes i will have to restart the pc because if i try and run the game/benchmark again the clock is maxed at 1045mhz which i guess is the "stock" speed from the skyn3t bios.. ?

After a bios flash sometimes you have to re-install drivers and delete AB/precisionX profiles folder!
Where you downloaded the bios there was a description with the bios speed! wink.gif
Did you check my OC guide for some pointers? OCCAMRAZOR ADVANCED GK110 OC GUIDE


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Originally Posted by Ahmed Agrode View Post

Hi guys yesterday i got Gigabyte Gtx 780ti oc windforce 3
And in the pcb found a white marks ??? What is that and from what this marks and that dangerous or ??

Those marks look like something was spilled on the PCB, or could be TIM leftovers (very sloppy assembler work in the factory), is your card new or used? or you could have a refurbished card sold as new! redface.gif


Cheers all

Ed

(Team skyn3t)
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I need you and others that flashed the MSI gaming bios and its not working to post the bios version you see in GPUz please! thumb.gif
(Team skyn3t)

My MSI gaming bios in GPUz is: 80.80.34.00.35 (P2083-0030)

GPUz screenshoot here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qiaochz1efgooj3/780ti.PNG

Thanks again for your great work. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Ahmed Agrode View Post

Hi guys yesterday i got Gigabyte Gtx 780ti oc windforce 3
And in the pcb found a white marks ??? What is that and from what this marks and that dangerous or ??

Mine looked the same and completely dirty and smelled odd. I didn't get a good first impression. Then one fan sporadically died and I just forced them to switch it to a MSI Gaming instead. It was crap too( I am VERY picky), so I switched to a EVGA ACX instead. PCB, cooler and wires look glorious.

I'll stick to GB motherboards.
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Mine looked the same and completely dirty and smelled odd. I didn't get a good first impression. Then one fan sporadically died and I just forced them to switch it to a MSI Gaming instead. It was crap too( I am VERY picky), so I switched to a EVGA ACX instead. PCB, cooler and wires look glorious.

I'll stick to GB motherboards.

If my EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti Superclocked ACX 3GB burns again I switch instantly back to Asus Direct CU II solution.
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Originally Posted by OccamRazor View Post

But believing fudzilla...

From the same article:
Basically if you are in the market for used Radeon on the cheap, buy it from a gamer, not a miner.

This is, IMO, FUD propagated to try to dampen the inevitable cliff-like drop in sales in around 6 months' time.

Mining is time sensitive. Eventually the difficulty will go up to the poing where mining on GPUs is going to become unprofitable because the electricity cost required to mine will exceed the value of the cryptocurrency being mined. This is accelerated by the new custom ASICs that have already been pre-sold which will hit the market some time in May, managing to cram the mining performance of about 120 R9 290X cards into a the power envelope of 3.

Once mining becomes unprofitable, all the GPU miners will flood ebay with their no longer profitable yet very gaming capable cards. This will inevitably lead to a massive price drop for second hand cards, which will in turn necessitate a similar drop in prices of similar new cards for anybody to bother buying new ones.

When this happens to ATI, and the prices of their cards go through the floor, Nvidia will inevitably have to make a similar adjustment. Possibly not as big, since they have a better product and they know it, but more cost sensitive gamers will easily be persuaded to get a second hand R9 290X if it costs half as much as a 780Ti.

So in 3-6 months might be a good time to go short on the shares in AMD and Nvidia, as there is likely to be extreme price deflation carnage in the 4th quarter this year.
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Originally Posted by gordan View Post

From the same article:
Basically if you are in the market for used Radeon on the cheap, buy it from a gamer, not a miner.

This is, IMO, FUD propagated to try to dampen the inevitable cliff-like drop in sales in around 6 months' time.

Mining is time sensitive. Eventually the difficulty will go up to the poing where mining on GPUs is going to become unprofitable because the electricity cost required to mine will exceed the value of the cryptocurrency being mined. This is accelerated by the new custom ASICs that have already been pre-sold which will hit the market some time in May, managing to cram the mining performance of about 120 R9 290X cards into a the power envelope of 3.

Once mining becomes unprofitable, all the GPU miners will flood ebay with their no longer profitable yet very gaming capable cards. This will inevitably lead to a massive price drop for second hand cards, which will in turn necessitate a similar drop in prices of similar new cards for anybody to bother buying new ones.

When this happens to ATI, and the prices of their cards go through the floor, Nvidia will inevitably have to make a similar adjustment. Possibly not as big, since they have a better product and they know it, but more cost sensitive gamers will easily be persuaded to get a second hand R9 290X if it costs half as much as a 780Ti.

So in 3-6 months might be a good time to go short on the shares in AMD and Nvidia, as there is likely to be extreme price deflation carnage in the 4th quarter this year.

From all the research I've done for myself, it already is unprofitable for GPU's regardless of the cryptocurrency being mined. It's now really only for the fools who can't do math, or folks who don't have to pay for their electricity.
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Originally Posted by Jimhans1 View Post

From all the research I've done for myself, it already is unprofitable for GPU's regardless of the cryptocurrency being mined. It's now really only for the fools who can't do math, or folks who don't have to pay for their electricity.

Totally agreed. I only mine as I live in Sweden and my electricity just so happen to be free. - If that wasn't the case I think I rather fast (like the first time I received my electrical bill) would stop thumb.gif

I also do care about games and want to run in my resolution: 2560x1080p and it seems like my Geforce 780Ti does that rather good, but sure, if I could have 2 X Radeon 290X for the same price as 1 X Geforce 780Ti I would go that way, but that isn't the case here in EU.
Edited by Wrathier - 4/9/14 at 2:12pm
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Originally Posted by Wrathier View Post

Totally agreed. I only mine as I live in Sweden and my electricity just so happen to be free. - If that wasn't the case I think I rather fast (like the first time I received my electrical bill) would stop thumb.gif

I also do care about games and want to run in my resolution: 2560x1080p and it seems like my Geforce 780Ti does that rather good, but sure, if I could have 2 X Radeon 290X for the same price as 1 X Geforce 780Ti I would go that way, but that isn't the case here in EU.
Electricity in Sweden is for free? specool.gif
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Originally Posted by Jimhans1 View Post

From all the research I've done for myself, it already is unprofitable for GPU's regardless of the cryptocurrency being mined. It's now really only for the fools who can't do math, or folks who don't have to pay for their electricity.

Not quite, but it's getting very close to neutral for a dedicated mining system. If you have a system that would run 24/7 anyway (e.g. a multi-seat virtualuzed gaming system / server consolidated machine like what I have), it still makes sense.
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