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I read that MS will be offering the 8.1 ISO for d/l soon. Was posted as a news story around here yesterday or so...

8.1 ISO has been out for almost 2 months on Dreamspark.
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Metro what? Better then the regular Windows 7 start menu. Yet morons are still hung up on the "Start" screen. Wahhhhh. I never see or go to the damn thing. Work strictly on the desktop. Windows 8 is more secure, faster and just as reliable if not more so then 7. Especially with 8.1 That is what Windows 8 should have been from the start.


I actually prefer the start screen over the Start menu. I had to download a program to remove the Start button. Start Menu is for noobs who don't know Keyboard shortcuts/run command/Powershell.

I can open programs/Snap-ins via Run faster than a person opening it via the Start Menu.
Edited by BeerPowered - 11/7/13 at 11:12am
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Is the Bing Search easy to disable? I really would like to search only my PROGRAMS only, not "apps" that override and stop EVERYTHING just to present me with a full-screened weather ~app~ that takes 20 seconds to open for some blasted reason or get some results about some famous person or something equally idiotic when I want to operate programs.

What I'm trying to ask is that if I press the Windows key and start typing, will typing, will it only give me the installed programs etc just like Windows 8 does? I really don't want to use Bing for anything except searching for Google just in case it might show up as a slightly more popular search because of that in the Microsoft Bing statistics.

I really don't like it how Google shoehorns Google+ with YouTube and Microsoft now shoehorns Bing with it's OS.


Yes, apparently it's easy to disable, but you'll have to navigate through the obnoxious full-screen-and-stop-whatever-else-you-were-doing Metro Interface.
Edited by seepra - 11/7/13 at 11:21am
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Is the Bing Search easy to disable? I really would like to search only my PROGRAMS only, not "apps" that override and stop EVERYTHING just to present me with a full-screened weather ~app~ that takes 20 seconds to open for some blasted reason or get some results about some famous person or something equally idiotic when I want to operate programs.

What I'm trying to ask is that if I press the Windows key and start typing, will typing, will it only give me the installed programs etc just like Windows 8 does? I really don't want to use Bing for anything except searching for Google just in case it might show up as a slightly more popular search because of that in the Microsoft Bing statistics.

I really don't like it how Google shoehorns Google+ with YouTube and Microsoft now shoehorns Bing with it's OS.


Yes, apparently it's easy to disable, but you'll have to navigate through the obnoxious full-screen-and-stop-whatever-else-you-were-doing Metro Interface.

Or you could learn Powershell.
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I will have Windows 8.1 on my new workstation. I don't mind windows 8 at all home so work should be easy.
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Or you could learn Powershell.

LOL no that's going to far biggrin.gif

mousing is way easier especially when you can come on OCN and complain rolleyes.gif
 
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... Start Menu is for noobs who don't know Keyboard shortcuts/run command/Powershell ...

So after 30 years we've come full circle and are back to the good ole DOS days and the command line. Boy that's progress!!! biggrin.gif

I wonder if all this typing-promoting has something to do with the Bing "Smart" Search (fully integrated from Tiles 8.1) and subjecting the poor devils to a continuous ad bombardment from their own frigging OS ...
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If you aren't happy with ClassicShell, and want a start menu that looks exactly like Win7 (with even more customization options) then try StartIsBack. It has a trial, and is not free, but it's dirt cheap at $3 for 2PC. I found the price worth it. http://www.startisback.com/

Windows 8.1 is great, minus the DPI issues it is causing in some games. That should hopefully be fixed soon though. It is better than Windows 7 after you customize it to your likely, not to mention performance in games is better than 7 (with BF4 it's a huge difference). It's just all around more optimized.
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So after 30 years we've come full circle and are back to the good ole DOS days and the command line. Boy that's progress!!! biggrin.gif

No, its just Professional Users vs Home Users. DOS/Terminal typing never left, its always been faster and always preferred by professionals.

A Home user will open Control panel->Administrative Tools->Computer Management->Disk Management.

A Professional user will hit Win Key+R and type diskmgmt.msc and hit enter.
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Most people I know are buying tablets to have with their desktops. It's just a mobile device, to be used on the go, at work, on vacation, at school, etc. I know, because I own one along with many of my friends but we all have desktops that we use when we get home from work, login to Facebook, check our mail and then do some gaming. Tablets are indeed on the rise but desktops are not in the decline like people would have you believe. I am still building new PCs for co workers every year. Even more so, in the past 3 years. The main thing to consider is that desktops will run for many years whereas you may only have a tablet for a couple years before it dies. Laptops, phones, tablets all have shorter life spans than a desktop PC, in most cases.

You mentioned timelines:

Windows XP launched in October 2001, Vista came out in Jan 2007, Windows 7 July 2009 and Windows 8 Oct 2012.

XP had been out for 6 years when Vista came out, many switched but the lack of decent drivers and bad performance on lower end machines killed future sales for Vista and gave it a bad reputation. By the time service packs came out to fix everything, it was too late.

Windows 7 dropped only 2 and a half years after Vista and is widely regarded as the best Windows to date. *edit* oh and Windows 7 is basically Windows Vista with service pack installed and some other fixes/tweaks, they moved stuff around and reduced some security features.

Windows 8 arrived just over 3 years later and has been a miserable failure even with it's performance improvements (something Vista lacked) mainly because Microsoft has tried to 'reinvent the wheel', so to speak. They built the OS with mobile touch screen devices in mind and refused to make another version for desktops.


Don't give me the 'people hate change' crap, people don't like change for no good reason. If people hated change then why are tablets doing so well? Why is everyone and their mother flocking to get fancy new touchscreen phones? Microsoft got lazy and cheap and decided they weren't going to take the time to make a proper desktop version of Windows 8 and it has slapped them in the face.

We get that there are many of you who like Windows 8. That's great! However, the vast majority of the world wants nothing to do with it as evident by the very poor sales.

Alright let's go through this then step by step:

1. Most people YOU know doesn't equate to most people. There is PLENTY of market research showing PC sales are on the decline, whether you and your friends are the case or not is irrelevant. It's a fact. End of story. And just to drive that point home:
http://allthingsd.com/20131009/back-to-school-season-disappoints-as-q3-pc-sales-decline-again/
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/09/us-technology-pc-sales-idUSBRE99817Y20131009
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304520704579125783245878574
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10000872396390444657804578048981461803220

And from 2012
http://www.slashgear.com/pc-sales-to-decline-in-2012-for-the-first-time-in-11-years-10251339/
http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2301715
http://www.forbes.com/sites/quickerbettertech/2012/10/15/the-secret-behind-declining-pc-sales/

2. I've used an iPad 2 since launch day. Battery life is still just as good, and still does what I need it to absolutely fine. Your point on it needing to be replaced soon is garbage. People CHOOSE to replace, they don't NEED to replace it at all.
3. Yes I know and understand about the timeline differences between them, though it doesn't change any of my points.
4. People do hate change. It's a normal fact of life. The death of the newspaper, people hated it that weren't early adopters. They beginning of the internet, people hated it because they weren't used to it. The launch of the tablet? PLEASE. Every reviewer, website, and individual took a giant collective dump on it saying it would never take off. How about the advent of the touch style smartphone (a la iPhone)? People all jumped on the hate wagon for whatever reason they could find. How about the movement away from the CD ROM and floppy drive? Tech elite were furious about it at first. Reviews of products without CD drives blasted them for it, yet still it was the right move in the progression of technology. I could go on, stuff like the advent of the LCD monitor with people complaining about poor refresh rates, ghosting, etc. Fact is all of these changes brought about massive ****storms from the entrenched users until they finally started trying it out and getting over themselves. Sure in a few of the issues I cited there were hardware improvements required, but it still left the entrenched BLIND to the potential.
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Alright let's go through this then step by step:

1. Most people YOU know doesn't equate to most people. There is PLENTY of market research showing PC sales are on the decline, whether you and your friends are the case or not is irrelevant. It's a fact. End of story.

Hardware sales aren't down. More people are building their own PC either by themselves or through a 3rd party like ibuypower. Dell/HP/Lenovo etc are losing sales as a result.
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