Originally Posted by criminal
Because it gets old. Like Alatar, I would rather hear from OCN members, instead of a review site that has limited time with the card. You should already be aware of the difference the average OCN GK110 users have had compared to review sites.
It's hard to say. I can appreciate user data with overclocks, but also keep in mind the context of how overclocks are done at this website. You and I both know that most users here go for suicide runs which aren't necessarily sustainable for longer than a mere valley run.....temps and long term stability be damned you know? It's all about what I can do in a 4 minute benchmark, doesn't matter if I TDR immediately afterward as long as I get a score.
I did the same thing with lightning 680s. What I did in those benchmark runs was far different than what was sustainable in gaming for 3-4 hours at a time, a suicide benchmark run really is a lot different. I could get past 1400mhz on my lightnings in those runs. In real world gaming? Not a way in hell, not unless I wanted 90C+ temps and noise out the wazoo.
I'm primarily a PC gamer and not as much of a benchmarker, so I like real world data in terms of overclocks. And those suicide runs that occupy the top 30 lists here on OCN, that doesn't match real world overclocks for gaming, know what I mean? I'm not saying that data isn't important, but it's a different kind of overclock mentality. Suicide benchmark runs versus real world gaming overclocking. They're different. I tend to value the latter more, I do like benchmarking but i'm not obsessed with it. Don't get me wrong, I still appreciate that data, it's good to have.
Anyway, I guess I find specific reviews to be valuable in terms of overclocking; HardOCP seems to know what they're doing with overclocking. Other sites such as TPU can't OC worth a darn, though. Just gotta be selective with which websites you go to, some reviewers really know how to OC and others don't care and only go for weak OC's. I mean, is anyone really *gaming* on air cooling with a classified at 1.35V? I'd say, probably freaking not. There's no way I would have done that on my former 680 lightnings. In a benchmark run maybe. Not during gaming - I went for a more real world sustainable and lower voltage overclock for gaming. And that's the type of data that I prefer.
That said, I think it's fairly obvious (since you guys are talking the 290X) that the 290X will have limited headroom due to the reference PCB and poor cooler used. A classified custom PCB would probably have way more headroom because of the PCB quality, I think. Maybe aftermarket 290X cards can change this, I have no idea. I'm willing to wait and see but it really is too bad that AMD threw that 27 cent cooler onto an otherwise fine performing card.Edited by xoleras - 11/4/13 at 11:55am