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Just bought a CRT today, i'm dissapointed.

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Hello, i just create an account for this, because i don't have knowledge about CRT so i'm interested in expert opinion thumb.gif

ok so here is the story, few days ago i just decide to bought a cheap CRT, mainly for the curiosity because i never use one, so i check for some good CRT and chose the NEC multisync 95f who is supposed to be a good CRT, i was aiming for 120hz (1024/768) to see how it is in game (cs go), i was expecting a smooth game without any blur, what you can have with like a benq xl2411t and lightboost i suppose, maybe i was wrong because it's far from that.

it was a pain but i manage to find 120hz, just working with 800/600 unfortunately (1024/768 didnt work anymore and i didnt find the good driver i think), the difference in game was pretty minor compared to my lcd 75hz, still blurry when i move the crosshair or do a 180, a little bit more smooth but nothing crazy like i was expecting, then i did the PixPerAn test, and still it was very blurry for most of the test, i couldn't read after 8/9 at the readability test i think lol.

So what is the problem ? bad CRT ? driver problem ? graphic card problem (7870XT) ?

(english is not my native language -.-)
post #2 of 6
Try 85hz, the 120hz standard is mostly for LCDs I believe.
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What do you mean, this monitor is designed to support 120hz at 1024/768 and 150hz at 800/600, you're saying that 85hz is better for CRT lol ? it's still very blurry at 85hz btw -.-
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There has to be something defective with the unit, as ant CRT at 60 Hz or above has exception motion clarity. What GPU are you using and how is it connected to the CRT? Pixperan should always be a 30 speed reading with a CRT.
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Regarding CRT drivers, try Custom Resolution Utility:
http://www.monitortests.com/forum/Thread-Custom-Resolution-Utility-CRU

The main benefit of that utility for CRTs is not so much the custom resolution function but the custom refresh rate function. My CRT drivers by default only allow 60hz at 1280x720 for some odd reason even though my CRT is capable of 94hz @ 720p.

Also it's practically required to use said utility if you're trying to get anything more than 75 or 85hz (depending on the resolution) with Windows 7.


Regarding the blur, that doesn't sound right at all. CRTs were notorious for their flicker at lower refresh rates. If each pulse of a frame were blurred into the next frame then flicker wouldn't have even been an issue in the first place.

As crazy as it sounds, try running the CRT with a resolution of 640x480 at 60hz. It's very possible that the monitor in question just has very poor dot pitch due to whatever reason and it comes across as motion blur in action. The 60hz is because a lower refresh rate will cause more flicker which is essentially the opposite of blur and is also the least "strenuous" for a CRT to display, so if it can't even do THAT crisply then either the CRT is on its last legs or your VGA video source is borky.
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post #6 of 6
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Ok so i have tried low resolution @60hz, it is less blurry but it's still a lot more blurry than what it should be, not a big improvement, i'm using a 7870XT, it's connected via a DVI / VGA adaptor, anyway thx for the awnser, the monitor is probably dying, since it doesn't support 120hz / 1024/768, this only work @800/600, i think i'm just gonna throw it, not a big deal.
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