Originally Posted by maarten12100
The fact that I could have like 1,5 times the performance of such a proc at max OC for 400 Euro (including mobo) doesn't change a thing that paying 2K for less performance is totally justified.
Not with anything resembling decent single threaded performance, and not with a single socket.
Originally Posted by Moragg
Meh. Wouldn't that fall into the "prosumer" category, same as the Titan? Here's a few ideas for intel that won't break the bank for the average consumer:
Soldered IHS. Genius, amiright?
IPC improvements > 10%
A forward-thinking socket that can last for 2 generations.
No loss in OC capability on newer platforms.
Half of these are impractical and the other half are a waste of money.
Originally Posted by perfectblade
more power usage and cost for effectively nothing.
More cores is a more power efficient way of gaining more multi-threaded performance than more sockets or higher clocks.
A ~4GHz, it's unlikely that an Ivy-E 12-core part would consume more power or be harder to cool than my 4.4GHz 3930k.
Originally Posted by xentrox
Question is, can it run Crysis maxed out?
At least four instances, actually.
Originally Posted by Ghoxt
As someone pointed out. There's always someone with enough disposable income and little sense.:
I resent the implication that dropping 2,000-2,500 dollars on an unlocked 12-core need be anything but perfectly logical.
If I have use for 12 cores, I have use for 12 cores with a 50% OC. If I have use for 16-20 stock cores across two sockets, I can probably do better with a single OCed, 12-core part. In both cases, I'll be saving money.
Originally Posted by Stay Puft
If people are that hardup for 12 cores buy an SR2 and a pair if X5680's off of Ebay.
Most people don't want cores for the sake of cores, they want more cores for more performance.
X5680s are three-plus generations old at this point and are seriously deficient in performance relative to Ivy-E, especially for anything that leverages AVX. Needed two sockets is also an enormous disadvantage, both from board-size/cost and performance. Communication between the cores on a 12-core Ivy-E die is 5-10 times as fast as being forced to communicate over QPI...not a huge issue if you are only running largely independent tasks, but this can be a very big deal if you have work being done on more than six cores that need any real degree of coherency.
Originally Posted by LancerVI
Again, I'm talking for the average consumer / enthusiast.
Which was never even remotely the target audience for these hypothetical parts.
Originally Posted by james8
That guy is already buying the $999 EE CPU. the rest of us are mostly <$500 CPU users.
It's been almost 10 years since I've spent over 300 dollars on a CPU.
I'm willing to spend much more, but the value isn't there. There is almost nothing spending 1000 dollars on a 3960/4960X gets me that I cannot get from my 220 dollar (Intel Retail Edge) 3930k. I would drop money on dual-socket and/or 12-core setup now, but I cannot afford to lose that much single threaded performance.
A 12-core Ivy-E or Haswell-E that I could push to 4GHz or beyond would be well worth it to me, even at ten times the cost of my current part, because I could do everything I currently do, plus a lot of stuff that is not even remotely feasible on a 4.4GHz SB-E that I would like to do.
Originally Posted by edo101
Btw what's SOO special about Xeon processors?
Nothing, and this wouldn't be a Xeon.