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I thought when I was buying into the i7-4930K that I was buying a unlocked base multiplier processor. Seems that only the turbo bins are unlocked and not the actual base multiplier, kind of cant stop feeling like I been ripped off.

When I purchased this, I was expecting to change my base multiplier from x34 to a small bump to some thing like 3.7GHz as base, retaining voltage at around stock, then turbo would have shifted to 4.2GHz instead of stock 3.9GHz turbo. Instead when I overclock, I lose turbo altogether and have to basically lock all core to a certain frequency, any of the advantages of running at stock are lost.

e.g.

Stock = Base 3.4GHz / Turbo 3.9GHz

If true unlocked base, then be like this = Overclocked Base 3.7GHz / Turbo 4.2GHz

I could adjust certain cores to max out at a certain point, but really should I have to, and if it is automatic then the system can manage which cores are turbo to the maximum when needed.

If I am not wrong, then would I be right to say that the i7-4930K is nothing more than a turbo bin unlocked processor?
If I understand what you're saying, Use offset instead of manual. Will do pretty much what you are looking for I believe. If your demand doesn't need it, why keep a base of 3.7ghz. Using offset will give you much better energy saving by clocking down to 1.1-1.2ghz and then turbo up to your multiplier setting of 42. Intel cpu's have been operating this way for some time now. You just didn't understand how they work. Not Intels fault.

@nickolp - You hit your wall. If it takes 1.44v to get 4.8ghz stable, it will certainly take a ridiculous amount to get 4.9. It is a little misleading. These cpu's will boot in at much lower voltages than are stable.

I can do this with my i5-760 so not sure what I don't understand, I understand this works, but not with the P9X79. Maybe I am in the wrong place in the BIOS, although the only thing that has Offset and Manual the voltage control, if that's what you mean?, as I have only ever used manual to dial in an exact voltage, don't like using offset.
As far as the overclocking options go, there is only, Auto, X.M.P. and Manual. I usually use X.M.P. as that can take care of my weak overclocking memory to keep it in check, and then dial in my other setting manually for the remainder of the motherboard.
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I can do this with my i5-760 so not sure what I don't understand, I understand this works, but not with the P9X79. Maybe I am in the wrong place in the BIOS, although the only thing that has Offset and Manual the voltage control, if that's what you mean?, as I have only ever used manual to dial in an exact voltage, don't like using offset.
As far as the overclocking options go, there is only, Auto, X.M.P. and Manual. I usually use X.M.P. as that can take care of my weak overclocking memory to keep it in check, and then dial in my other setting manually for the remainder of the motherboard.
You have EIST( Intel Speedstep) and turbo on while using manual voltage? If so, you're missing the key benefit by not using offset voltage. If these are used in conjunction they will increase and decrease clock speed and voltage based on the load of the cpu. By using manual voltage, you are continuously pumping the cpu full of voltage it does not need.
I would recommend reading a few oc'ing guides. http://www.overclock.net/t/1291703/ivy-bridge-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboards. Even though it is based on Ivy( 3770K, ect.) This outlines the fundementals and the basics of bios are the same.
    
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They are all soldered. I am assuming he did this to run naked die?
They are not, only the 4960X is soldered.......
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They are not, only the 4960X is soldered.......

ummm im pretty sure all 2011 (most) are soldered.. my 4930k is
     
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ummm im pretty sure all 2011 (most) are soldered.. my 4930k is

All are soldered from everything I have read.
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I need someone with more knowledge on this i7 4903k and overclocking to help me. I am going purchase the asus riv black and avexir ddr3 32GB 2400mhz cl10 soon. I am getting 32GB more later. I need to know will the ram speed and the fact that it is going to be over safe voltage. Would that affect my the cpu overclock? Then i7 4930k is in my dresser with its water block since no funds for the other parts atm. My Build Log is there.
    
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I need someone with more knowledge on this i7 4903k and overclocking to help me. I am going purchase the asus riv black and avexir ddr3 32GB 2400mhz cl10 soon. I am getting 32GB more later. I need to know will the ram speed and the fact that it is going to be over safe voltage. Would that affect my the cpu overclock? Then i7 4930k is in my dresser with its water block since no funds for the other parts atm. My Build Log is there.
The ram may be your trouble spot. Getting 32/64gb of ram to show top performance seems to be the kicker with this board. Knowing what ic your ram will have, is a must. 8/16gb are easy. 32/64gb is going to take some tweaking. There are few things that utilize that much memory. Hope you have a real need and not just wanting the most memory.
There seem to be a lot of people getting this mobo, not realizing it's made for oc'ing. There are other boards that will perform similar for less that deal with 32/64gb better. 32/64gb of memory installed is not in a true benching/oc'ing config.
    
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I need someone with more knowledge on this i7 4903k and overclocking to help me. I am going purchase the asus riv black and avexir ddr3 32GB 2400mhz cl10 soon. I am getting 32GB more later. I need to know will the ram speed and the fact that it is going to be over safe voltage. Would that affect my the cpu overclock? Then i7 4930k is in my dresser with its water block since no funds for the other parts atm. My Build Log is there.

Make sure that memory is supported for the ASUS board. It all depends on how far you overclock your CPU and how strong the IMC is on your chip. I would say the higher the overclock the less likely you will be able to run your memory at 2400+ on stock VCCSA voltage. So maybe at 4.6/4.7Ghz you may need a bump in voltage for 2400mhz RAM. Like I said, depends on your CPU.

I'm only running @4.5Ghz currently and 32GB 1866Mhz memory with XMP enabled. No BSOD's/crashes, tested memtest no issues. But, then again my overclock is modest and my board is the x79 Deluxe.
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Make sure that memory is supported for the ASUS board. It all depends on how far you overclock your CPU and how strong the IMC is on your chip. I would say the higher the overclock the less likely you will be able to run your memory at 2400+ on stock VCCSA voltage. So maybe at 4.6/4.7Ghz you may need a bump in voltage for 2400mhz RAM. Like I said, depends on your CPU.

I'm only running @4.5Ghz currently and 32GB 1866Mhz memory with XMP enabled. No BSOD's/crashes, tested memtest no issues. But, then again my overclock is modest and my board is the x79 Deluxe.

can you share the BIOS settings you are using on the x79 deluxe ?
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All are soldered from everything I have read.

The 2011 Xeons are soldered too. Full tilt with AVX, temperatures are barely any higher than without AVX. Nothing like Haswell with AVX/AVX2 (95C easy under H90/lightly OC'ed 4770K). They act "normal" thermally. My 4930K with H110 never broke 60C even with a small overclock.
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