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Buying M4 30mm blacks from Ace is freaking expensive. Dammit Wermad why you tap your rads to M4 for?? Prices for 6/32 are like 10 cents vs 65 cents for M4 lol.
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In the states, there is also Fastenal, if you have a store nearby they can order you whatever length, size, pitch you need. Among other things.
I LOVE this site. I have spent near $200USD in screws from here and more than happy to. I can get the Holokrome brand from the store down the road at twice the cost of the website. Granted, I have a very particular screw usage (length, black anodized, and socket head rather than normal phillips) but there hasn't been much I can't find there. Well... other than black anodized m3 nuts... damn it... they don't exist on fastenal
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I got 5 pack of screws(6/32) each 11 pc, I got 2 packs of washers #6's each 36pc's so I got 55 screws/bolts and 72 washers for less than 16 bucks, oh did I say they are Stainless steel
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post #24 of 40
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Originally Posted by tsm106 View Post

Buying M4 30mm blacks from Ace is freaking expensive. Dammit Wermad why you tap your rads to M4 for?? Prices for 6/32 are like 10 cents vs 65 cents for M4 lol.

Depends on what ya need, for me Ace was cheapest ..... I bought 8 screws for 98 cents each at Ace but more importantly, they figured out that it was the 0.5 thread which i didn't as yet know at the time.

100 screws was $5.66 + $7.60 shipping from Amazon so $13.26
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post #25 of 40
For those looking for M3 x 30-35mm bolts for rads & fans (Alphacool in particular)
http://www.pro-bolt.com/aluminium/aluminium-bolts-socket-cap.html
post #26 of 40
hmm... I really don't need 100 of them, but that looks like the best option. Our local ACE is lacking in metric sizes, and the one store that does have metric doesn't have 30mm. 25 & 35mm only. Makes me want to punch babies.

oh wut? 6-10 day shipping? Almost worth paying the obscene markup on FCPU/PPC to get them by friday.
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post #27 of 40
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hmm... I really don't need 100 of them, but that looks like the best option. Our local ACE is lacking in metric sizes, and the one store that does have metric doesn't have 30mm. 25 & 35mm only. Makes me want to punch babies.

oh wut? 6-10 day shipping? Almost worth paying the obscene markup on FCPU/PPC to get them by friday.

Yeah i ordered the box of 100 m3x30mm screws from DrillSpot thru Amazon ($5.66 + $7.66 shipping) and they definitely took the full 10 days before they shipped. All in all it took just over 2 weeks after placing the order to get to me.

FWIW Here they are on ebay for the same price ($5.28 + $7.50 shipping) w/ quicker shipping.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-PIECE-M3-0-50-X-5MM-THRU-30MM-12-9-BUTTON-HEAD-CAP-SCREW-BOLT-ALLOY-BLACK-/291121593218
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 4/9/14 at 8:12pm
post #28 of 40
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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post

Yeah i ordered the box of 100 m3x30mm screws from DrillSpot thru Amazon ($5.66 + $7.66 shipping) and they definitely took the full 10 days before they shipped. All in all it took just over 2 weeks after placing the order to get to me.

FWIW Here they are on ebay for the same price ($5.28 + $7.50 shipping) w/ quicker shipping.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-PIECE-M3-0-50-X-5MM-THRU-30MM-12-9-BUTTON-HEAD-CAP-SCREW-BOLT-ALLOY-BLACK-/291121593218

Thanks. I ended up just ordering a massive pile of the cheapest, Philips head screws from PPC. Something like ¢35 each. Rather have all matching screws than the hodgepodge of random jumble iv'e collected over the years.
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post #29 of 40
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Again, there's a lot of people in all those other threads here on OCN and other sites who also think it is wrong somehow. And yes I think it's wrong to export and sell a product in another country w/o providing the purchaser with the means or necessary information to obtain additional / replacement parts in that same country. When I buy my pump, I can buy all the necessary and matching accessories (Heat sink, fan, port adapters) with it .... when I buy reservoirs, I can buy all the necessary and matching accessories (tops, bottoms, port adapters, fill tubes, mounting hardware) with it.... when I buy water blocks, I can buy all the necessary and matching accessories (backplates, SLI links) with it. Why the special exception for radiators ?

Suppose I lost one or more screws ? In fact, if someone complained to the US Better Business Bureau or Consume Protection Agencies, these companies just might start having a bit of import problems with their products. Would anyone buy a US made car in the UK if you could not buy replacement parts there ? I know I never had the Porsche, Nissan, Jaguar, Mercedes dealers tell me they can't provide any parts I need. When buying a pump for example, the sites almost always tell ya what ya might need (adapter, for G-1/4 fittings or whatever) if purchasing the item. Again, why the exception here ?

The fact remains, not all of us live in "the rest of the world" and they chose not to sell this radiator in "the rest of the world", they're are selling it to US customers and with that comes certain responsibilities. Maybe it's not true in the "rest of the world" but here there are disclosure laws and regulations, so we are accustomed to having such information "before" we make a purchase. Giving me a source in UK doesn't negate the fact that they are not available here in the US. Showing that it works in some situations doesn't change the fact that 1) it doesn't work in others and 2) they did not disclose this fact. This situation is easily correctable with a simple "disclosure statement" and manufacturers, here at least, are required to provide such things. Yes, these laws sometimes result in stupid product labeling (For example, sewing needle package says "Do not stick in eyes") but this information here is obscure as evidenced by the number of threads on the topic.

I assume you aren't objecting to the fact that I posted about my experience trying obtaining the missing screw pitch information (M3 commonly comes in both 0.50 and 0.35 pitch though others are made) that was was needed and once having determined same, posting the sources and part numbers, at least for the black screws, with the missing pitch information for people who also find themselves short screws. So, I must ask exactly which point do you find objectionable ? Why would it be a burden or a bad thing for Alphacool to .....

- Provide the necessary pitch information on their web site so that we can obtain the correct replacement / additional screws.
- Add a note to their product page, in accordance with applicable US laws and regulations, saying that a user **may** need to purchase extra screws to complete their installation
- Provide a means for customers to obtain any replacement part that is needed from their authorized resellers or at least provide information on other sources where such might be obtained..... or maybe even sell the matching screws themselves !

Holy mother of Zeus! DUDE! you are working with custom parts, you know it's hammer to fit and paint to hide stuff. Go to the local TrueValue and buy some damn screws, leave the damn lawyers out of it!
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What a waste of a thread....

We have reached a new low here.
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