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Pretty much this. Games rely on sequential speeds, something HDDs excel at. An SSD can help with initial loading, but once you get in-game, there shouldn't be a huge difference if any at all. I'm not sure how much my laptop cost since it was a gift, but $170 on an SSD (now $90 since I moved the bigger one to my rig) is 1) probably a quarter of the value of it, and 2) a great investment. I can do a cold-boot faster than I could recover from hibernation on a half-full 500GB 5400RPM HDD. They can access data in about 1% the time or less than an HDD and get 100 times the random speeds.

As for your situation, 32GB of RAM is a waste. Anything more than 8GB is in general unless you have a very specific use for it all. For normal operation within Windows, quad-Titans give no better performance than a built-in GPU. The eight threads on the i7 might be helpful, but you can generally get away with three or four and be fine. A Samsung 840 EVO or Crucial M500 are both great values. Samsung is better on the software side, and Crucial is better on the hardware side (they aren't faster - slower, actually, but not by much - but have enterprise-like features). Kingston and SanDisk make cheap drives if you aren't sure and don't want to spend too much.
I know 32g of ram was not need it was bundled with a motherboard i got for free. I thought it would not hurt having alot ram anyway.

I suspect once i get 840 pro and do clean install my pc will be alot faster at everything.
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Free RAM is best RAM. Spending $250 and $180 more than is necessary on RAM is worst RAM. I'd avoid the 840 Pro unless you have very specific needs: working with lots of data at a time on a budget. SSDs less then about 180-240GB (depending on the controller) are measurably slower than their larger counterparts. If you need speed on a budget, the an EVO is great unless you deal with editing or rendering files larger than 4-5GB daily. Otherwise, practically anything 240GB or more will be fine for your purposes. Really though, when 240GB M500s go on sale for a 128GB Pro's normal price (ebay sale a couple weeks ago), you know there's a problem somewhere.
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Free RAM is best RAM. Spending $250 and $180 more than is necessary on RAM is worst RAM. I'd avoid the 840 Pro unless you have very specific needs: working with lots of data at a time on a budget. SSDs less then about 180-240GB (depending on the controller) are measurably slower than their larger counterparts. If you need speed on a budget, the an EVO is great unless you deal with editing or rendering files larger than 4-5GB daily. Otherwise, practically anything 240GB or more will be fine for your purposes. Really though, when 240GB M500s go on sale for a 128GB Pro's normal price (ebay sale a couple weeks ago), you know there's a problem somewhere.
So this would be faster than a 128g pro?

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=77211&vpn=MZ-7TD250BW&manufacture=Samsung%20Memory%20%26%20Storage
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No, but the benchmark difference is negligible and the real-world difference is zero. Pros are the fastest SSDs hands down, but they aren't worth the $30-40 premium when just $10 more than that doubles the capacity.
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I might not even need a new ssd actually i have i could take my old one out of other pc which i am just using as backup.

This ssd would still be considered good one and prob not worth buying new one right?
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148443


I would only need to delete whats on drive and format it or w/e.
Edited by bcooper21 - 11/5/13 at 6:20pm
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That would be fine. M4s are still awesome and there is no need to upgrade an SSD with a reliable controller and good firmware. Black Friday is just around the corner, so you should look out for deals on SSDs. I've seen 240-256GB drives drop to as low as $135 recently and it's not even Thanksgiving.
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