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It's ridiculous when people think Intel can't make a good discreet GPU. Take those mediocre APU GPUs out (that can already play 3-year-old games), multiply the transistor count, give it discreet cooling and you got a major competitor.

They obviously have another reason not doing it, low interest in the small desktop market, mainly interested in professional GPGPUs, anti-trust laws in case they destroy both NVIDIA and AMD, or other (entertain me).

edit: Possibly also deals with GPU makers that are secret (possibly with AMD since they are already a duopoly with x86/x86-64 Patents).
AMD's offerings are bandwidth limited at least that is the general consensus and is confirmed since the performance increases with faster ram.

But actually we will see some nice things in 2014 from both since AMD is going to shrink down into 14nm with GloFo according to that one rumour.
post #12 of 22
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It's ridiculous when people think Intel can't make a good discreet GPU.

They cant. Driver support is part of making a decent GPU and Intel doesnt have it.
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Driver support and intel? No way. My igpu doesnt even work on 8.1
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post #14 of 22
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They cant. Driver support is part of making a decent GPU and Intel doesnt have it.

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Driver support and intel? No way. My igpu doesnt even work on 8.1
a bit pessimistic Intel might one day make a good gpu ASIC with decent drivers I personally think their lack of purchases when most gpu companies went bankrupt is going to get back to them now.
I mean Ati purchases a lot and so did Nvidia with them having 3dFX when AMD bought Ati it seemed like they payed way too much but it turns out it was money well spent after all.
post #15 of 22
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It's ridiculous when people think Intel can't make a good discreet GPU. Take those mediocre APU GPUs out (that can already play 3-year-old games), multiply the transistor count, give it discreet cooling and you got a major competitor.

They obviously have another reason not doing it, low interest in the small desktop market, mainly interested in professional GPGPUs, anti-trust laws in case they destroy both NVIDIA and AMD, or other (entertain me).

edit: Possibly also deals with GPU makers that are secret (possibly with AMD since they are already a duopoly with x86/x86-64 Patents).

...because making a good discrete GPU is NOT just "Take those mediocre APU GPUs out (that can already play 3-year-old games), multiply the transistor count, give it discreet cooling and you got a major competitor."

Just read the article.... "Interrupt registers have been reorganized, PTEs (page table entries) have been reworked to more closely resemble x86′s PTEs, address space has been increased, and the per-process GTT (graphics translation table) has been changed."

Plus the other half of GPUs... drivers.
Edited by DuckieHo - 11/6/13 at 6:45am
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post #16 of 22

Good move while AMD CPU (APU) is not so hot or to high end to catch up yet.

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Just solder the damn IHS back on. Some of us like watercooling AND warranties.
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Viable budget build for high graphics gaming? thinking.gif
Not really. Unless you play at a laughable resolution.
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Just solder the damn IHS back on. Some of us like watercooling AND warranties.

Intel mainstream desktop CPUs are dies that failed binning for notebook use that are sold with the least work done on them possible to keep the fabs going. Since TIM is cheaper than Solder that's great for Intel. They don't really care about mainstream CPU's OC/ performance increase, all they are focusing on is mobile CPU power consumption reduction.
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Just solder the damn IHS back on. Some of us like watercooling AND warranties.

I don't mind losing the warranty since cpus simply won't die unless you kill them yourself (well a few in a million could die) but I mind it because delidding is a high risk procedure.
     
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