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I thought about asking in this active thread, but didn't want to hijack it.

I'm looking for a new speaker setup for my team's rowing room. We're sick of the crappy 2-speaker setup we've been using. The goal is maximum volume and hard-hitting bass. Accuracy and fidelity aren't priorities as we're far more focused on rowing/erging than sound quality but I'd still like a loud, thorough soundstage.

Budget is ideally under $300. We listen to pump-up music (house, dubstep, mixes, some rock). Audio source is almost exclusively a laptop or MP3 player/phone.

After 15 minutes or so of poking around, I came up with this Dayton 10" sub ($95), Micca Motion Series MB42's ($60), and this Sherwood stereo receiver ($100).

Would it be more feasible/logical to hook up bookshelf speakers to the sub, and the sub to an amp? I have next to no experience with amps and want to make sure I have enough power to drive the sub loud.

Thanks in advance!
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The sub is active, so it has its own power, but you may need to connect it like that to get an audio signal to the sub.

The receiver has aux out so maybe you can used that instead.
    
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The sub is active, so it has its own power, but you may need to connect it like that to get an audio signal to the sub.

The receiver has aux out so maybe you can used that instead.

Would this Pyle amp work? I was thinking about hooking up the sub to the amp, and the L/R monitors to the output of the sub.

Thanks for the help, by the way.
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You can hook up the way you said, but the Pyle Amplifier won't be able to drive those speakers anywhere near their potential- The speakers have a very low efficiency and are rated for 75W- and the amplifier you posted is... 8. It might get loud enough for your uses, but with those speakers being so inefficient, I'm not convinced.

Pyle stuff, generally, is to be avoided. Their marketed specifications and power ratings are usually completely made up.

I'd get a LP-2020 before the pyle thing. You're better off with the receiver than either, though, IMO.
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my logitech z323 sounds pretty good paired with recon3d pro fatal1ty sound card, the bass hits really good.
    
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You can hook up the way you said, but the Pyle Amplifier won't be able to drive those speakers anywhere near their potential- The speakers have a very low efficiency and are rated for 75W- and the amplifier you posted is... 8. It might get loud enough for your uses, but with those speakers being so inefficient, I'm not convinced.

Pyle stuff, generally, is to be avoided. Their marketed specifications and power ratings are usually completely made up.

I'd get a LP-2020 before the pyle thing. You're better off with the receiver than either, though, IMO.

I have to agree as well. Smaller speakers are usually less efficient and require more power to be driven at higher volumes. Cabinet size plays a role too.

You can get the Insignia NS-SP213 5 1/4" bookshelf speakers from Best Buy for $60 right now. They look like a Polk Audio rebadge too, but they should be more efficient. Doesn't state how much more. Probably 88-90dB of sensitivity. The Miccas are 85dB. The way it's rated is that's how loud they are at 1w at 1m away. And it's surprising how much more power is required from 85dB to 90dB at a few meters away.

If you have a Fry's nearby they have a 10" Energy sub for $100 and a stereo receiver for $100. So all of that should be under $300.
    
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You can hook up the way you said, but the Pyle Amplifier won't be able to drive those speakers anywhere near their potential- The speakers have a very low efficiency and are rated for 75W- and the amplifier you posted is... 8. It might get loud enough for your uses, but with those speakers being so inefficient, I'm not convinced.

Pyle stuff, generally, is to be avoided. Their marketed specifications and power ratings are usually completely made up.

I'd get a LP-2020 before the pyle thing. You're better off with the receiver than either, though, IMO.

Thanks for the advice. I had no idea what speaker efficiency even was, but it sounds like it's going to be an important thing to keep in mind for this purpose.
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I have to agree as well. Smaller speakers are usually less efficient and require more power to be driven at higher volumes. Cabinet size plays a role too.

You can get the Insignia NS-SP213 5 1/4" bookshelf speakers from Best Buy for $60 right now. They look like a Polk Audio rebadge too, but they should be more efficient. Doesn't state how much more. Probably 88-90dB of sensitivity. The Miccas are 85dB. The way it's rated is that's how loud they are at 1w at 1m away. And it's surprising how much more power is required from 85dB to 90dB at a few meters away.

If you have a Fry's nearby they have a 10" Energy sub for $100 and a stereo receiver for $100. So all of that should be under $300.

I wish I had a Fry's nearby...

Could I get away with using the LP-2020 amp with more efficient speakers, like these Infinity's, or these BIC America's (both rated at 90 dB sensitivity) through the subwoofer?

If I could find an amplifier under $50 to power a $100 pair of speakers and a $100 subwoofer, I'd be ecstatic.
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Every 3db is double, so 90db speakers will make almost 4 times the amount of sound for the same amount of power.
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Thanks for the advice. I had no idea what speaker efficiency even was, but it sounds like it's going to be an important thing to keep in mind for this purpose.
I wish I had a Fry's nearby...

Could I get away with using the LP-2020 amp with more efficient speakers, like these Infinity's, or these BIC America's (both rated at 90 dB sensitivity) through the subwoofer?

If I could find an amplifier under $50 to power a $100 pair of speakers and a $100 subwoofer, I'd be ecstatic.

The infinities are Each and the Bic speakers are for the pair just as a heads up.

For amp I'd agree with the Lepai suggested earlier if you are in a smaller area with bookshelf speakers. If you want wattage I'm currently using the AudioSource Amp-100 and it's a sweet little amp as well. Very clean output. On amazon there's also the Sherwood RX-4105 100 Watt Stereo Receiver (Black) which seems to have decent reviews and would power your proposed setup pretty well and also has a tuner if you want a little local radio. It's also cheaper than the audiosource I mentioned at only $98

How big is the room these will be in? If it's a huge room you could also consider forgoing the subwoofer and check out the Pioneer sp-fs51-lr floor standing speakers, they're 152 on amazon for the pair. If you are somewhat handy and could handle the possible fixing of a bad speaker mount you could look into a PA style system. I see on amazon the PYLE-PRO PADH1079 is down to $65 and with a 30' cable (longer than you need I'm sure) and the Pyle 1000w amp it'd about $180. These would be a couple alternative options.

The last option I can find with a quick look around is over your $300 budget so it's off the table but I'll mention it anyways. On parts-express there is the BIC RtR 1530 15" 3-Way Tower Speaker for $120 each with free shipping. Get 2 of these with an amp or receiver and you should have ample volume for your needs.
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