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There a reason why the g100s doesn't get much attention? Has the low max dpi many purists want. over 4m/s pcs. Just because it doesn't have the 400/800 dpi many purists want? does it have a high lod?

I think that a lot of people dismiss all non-palm grip mice and all mice with less than five buttons right off the bat. Some people may feel that a gaming mouse shouldn't look like something that could have been bundled with a Dell PC. Isn't very fair for the G100S which is a great mouse though. I am in Korea right now and the G100S is about $17 while the G100 (PC bang edition, no packaging) is about $13. These mice prove that there is no reason you need to break the bank to get a very competitive mouse. On the other hand, specifications also sell. I am sure the Logitech put 500 hz and 2500 dpi as the max levels for these mice so it would clearly be inferior to other mice by the numbers.
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There a reason why the g100s doesn't get much attention? Has the low max dpi many purists want. over 4m/s pcs. Just because it doesn't have the 400/800 dpi many purists want? does it have a high lod?

Probably because it doesn't have over 4 m/s pcs but rather less than 3 m/s. At 1000 dpi it only had 2.88 m/s max.

Other than that it's a fine mouse, that's why I use it at work.
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anyone know of any propper reviews of it? tried searching these forums and didn't see anything with clear indications of its performance at different dpi and polling rates.

i decided to buy one, because its cheap so why the hell not? Also it has low max dpi, very light, and is one of the fastest for mouse click registering. Also, has a fairly low min native dpi. I feel like i'm becoming too reliant on the QL mouse accel driver with my zowie. Having to put post scale to 0.14

also if high max speed can be increased in sensors, i wonder if its possible as a consumer to increase the max speed of a mouse by like increasing the frame rate of the sensor or something.
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anyone know of any propper reviews of it? tried searching these forums and didn't see anything with clear indications of its performance at different dpi and polling rates.

i decided to buy one, because its cheap so why the hell not? Also it has low max dpi, very light, and is one of the fastest for mouse click registering. Also, has a fairly low min native dpi. I feel like i'm becoming too reliant on the QL mouse accel driver with my zowie. Having to put post scale to 0.14

also if high max speed can be increased in sensors, i wonder if its possible as a consumer to increase the max speed of a mouse by like increasing the frame rate of the sensor or something.

All I have: http://imgur.com/a/lPwil
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their site advertises 4.08m/s. Might have to bug their customer support a little if i get below 3m/s.

other mouse i'm curious about and see virtually no information on is the mico. Does it interpolate the same way as other zowie mice with the highest being the native setting? What kind of pcs does it have?
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There a reason why the g100s doesn't get much attention? Has the low max dpi many purists want. over 4m/s pcs. Just because it doesn't have the 400/800 dpi many purists want? does it have a high lod?

Interesting. I'm curious myself now.
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I'll just quote from memory what Skylit told me recently:

3310 is similar to 3090 in regards to speed, high PCS counts are probably faked, not by user but by manufacturer. Speed is just a byproduct of a sensors framerate limitation and data allocation of the device. So they could produce the same speeds with A3090. The only real benefit of the 3310 is the inherent 50 step increment by dsp calculation.

According to Skylit the lift off adjustment of the 3310 is not that good because it rapes sensor performance on multi surfaces.

So it's not the point of the A3090 being much inferior, the 3310 just gets pushed right now. They could have done the same with the A3090, but apparently PixArt wants the 3310 to be the new flagship.

Interesting. Artificial limitation. Sigh, why can't we have other companies step up to the plate and make a proper laser mouse with no acceleration for example? It's like the flaws are intentional in Pixart products.
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Not saying that everything is quoted correctly by me, that's just what I understood wink.gif

And I don't think the newer tech, even laser, is bad for most users. The user base here makes up only a very tiny part of those buying said mice and most probably won't ever feel the minor problems that big us. It's like cars are made to fit 95% of people in size, if you're too big or too small you have to live with that.

I hope more new tech gets pushed in the near future, without innovation nothing much will ever change. But we ourselves are often acting against innovation by condemning even the slightest starting flaws.
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Not saying that everything is quoted correctly by me, that's just what I understood wink.gif

And I don't think the newer tech, even laser, is bad for most users. The user base here makes up only a very tiny part of those buying said mice and most probably won't ever feel the minor problems that big us. It's like cars are made to fit 95% of people in size, if you're too big or too small you have to live with that.

I hope more new tech gets pushed in the near future, without innovation nothing much will ever change. But we ourselves are often acting against innovation by condemning even the slightest starting flaws.

So the new pixart pw3310 may or may not be an upgrade to the 3090?

MIGHT, as what you quoted may not have been 100 percent correct here I hope? It may sound that I am hopeful that people are wrong, which is true, because I truly hope that companies like steelseries, mionix, corsair, and even the sensor company pixart, did not deceive their customers about the advancement we made on this new sensor.

If they have, I'm only showing my frustration at them for not making our gaming lives the beset experience it can be.
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So the new pixart pw3310 may or may not be an upgrade to the 3090?

MIGHT, as what you quoted may not have been 100 percent correct here I hope? It may sound that I am hopeful that people are wrong, which is true, because I truly hope that companies like steelseries, mionix, corsair, and even the sensor company pixart, did not deceive their customers about the advancement we made on this new sensor.

If they have, I'm only showing my frustration at them for not making our gaming lives the beset experience it can be.

It is possible that they artificially limited the max PCS on the 3090 that's all. The 3310 is a sensor I rely on every day and it never, EVER fails me.
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It is possible that they artificially limited the max PCS on the 3090 that's all. The 3310 is a sensor I rely on every day and it never, EVER fails me.

I can say the same thing for the 3090. My sensitivity isn't 70/360 though, more like 46/360.
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