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Those mice are random af...

Do you work for "Team Scorpion" or something? hmmsmiley02.gif
Look, I know that some people like to live in their little boxes but seriously now. Do you really think that some chinese company would be advertising for over 2 years outdated hardware? Get real now.

Also what random? Some of their mice has two versions, old one with glossy shell that uses A5050 and new one with matte shell that uses A3050. A5050 ones says 2400 dpi on the box while the A3050 ones says 2000 dpi on the box. Some googling tells you that much.
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thinking about ordering a wired pyra, 400/800/1600 dpi, advertised as 3.3m/s max speed. If any of the 3310 sensored mice were sub 95 grams claw grip mice, they would be an easier sell to me. But massive smoothing and heavy and expensive?

Massive smoothing - no. Definitely not. These mice definitely jitter at higher CPI steps and I don't feel any delay over 3090 mice that I own. Heavy is relative, the Avior is a pretty average weight for a gaming mouse. Expensive, but worth it for the build quality.
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But not the coating quality.

But that is because I'm beginning to hate every rubber or similar coated mouse.
It just shows its age WAY too quick. After 2 days the Avior had fingerprints on it that wouldn't go away easily.
Looking at my way too dusty and smudgy mousepad I can only say that I'm really not that OCD about aesthetics or looks on desktop peripheral (anymore). But seeing the new expensive equipment looking very old very fast is just too much to bear. tongue.gif
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But not the coating quality.

But that is because I'm beginning to hate every rubber or similar coated mouse.
It just shows its age WAY too quick. After 2 days the Avior had fingerprints on it that wouldn't go away easily.
Looking at my way too dusty and smudgy mousepad I can only say that I'm really not that OCD about aesthetics or looks on desktop peripheral (anymore). But seeing the new expensive equipment looking very old very fast is just too much to bear. tongue.gif

Blech at least it isn't glossy. Just ew at the DA 3G's sides.
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Blech at least it isn't glossy. Just ew at the DA 3G's sides.

DA 3G/3.5G sides are way better imo tongue.gif
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We all know the IME 3.0 and the MX510/518 has the superior coatings on the sides that works for -> almost <- everyone, unlike coatings now that are crap if you have dry hands, or glossy if you got slightly greasy or wet hands.

..although the coating on my IME 3.0 has worn down on the thumb after quite a few years of use, and the shell is more black than silver now ^^
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why can't they go back to the older coatings? Is it that that they need to use cheaper and cheaper materials?
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Massive smoothing - no. Definitely not. These mice definitely jitter at higher CPI steps and I don't feel any delay over 3090 mice that I own. Heavy is relative, the Avior is a pretty average weight for a gaming mouse. Expensive, but worth it for the build quality.

which 3090 mice do you own? obviously as this thread topic suggests, there is very noticable smoothing on 3090 mice with a high enough dpi. The problem with smoothing is there is no objective test to measure it. We have software to measure cpi and max speed. And when we try to draw circles, its pretty easy to objectively see how much prediction and jitter there is. But smoothing can't be scientifically examined. Which creates the placebo problem. Where there are contradictory reports for individual mice. I have heard there is very noticeable smoothing on 3310 compared to low dpi mice.
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DA 3G/3.5G sides are way better imo tongue.gif

My slightly modded DA sides become slippery and slide inches under my thumb within about 30 seconds of osu while intellimouse lasts about 1.5-2 minutes and that's not even a "gaming" built mouse. If it can't hold up under adrenaline+sweat for long enough to do a quarter of a map or FPS round then it's not much use. Squeezing the mouse and ruining your wrists is not a solution either.

It seems to be that it's clearly build for palm grip with different hands than i have (using claw/fingertip) because of the shape, the fact that only the top has any kind of grippy coating while the sides are glossy plastic, and the way that it is mandatory to either grip very far up the mouse or take a 10-25 degree tilt to the side due to the angle of the bottom of the mouse if you don't grip far enough up
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which 3090 mice do you own? obviously as this thread topic suggests, there is very noticable smoothing on 3090 mice with a high enough dpi. The problem with smoothing is there is no objective test to measure it. We have software to measure cpi and max speed. And when we try to draw circles, its pretty easy to objectively see how much prediction and jitter there is. But smoothing can't be scientifically examined. Which creates the placebo problem. Where there are contradictory reports for individual mice. I have heard there is very noticeable smoothing on 3310 compared to low dpi mice.

I found plenty lack of anti-jitter algorithm in my paint tests with the Avior which are still posted on the OP of my thread reviewing that mouse.

I own an FK and a G400 for comparison, neither have the 4000 CPI SROM.
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