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How are the VRM temps ? Im still using an FM2A75-ITX with a modified heatsink on the VRM / MOSFET assembly (Check the FM2A75 motherboard fire thread), and I am considering replacing that board with the FM2A88X-ITX so that I can use my iGPU again, without having the board explode.

I ran my board with the modified heatsink and it didn't explode like the first one did. However, the temps still did get ridiculously high. The CPU always hit it's tjmax, and the modified heatsink (has a fan on it) still gets up to 90c. Its a lot better than 200c though, I suppose, but to play it on the safe side, I disabled my iGPU in the summertime and popped in a GT 430. Temps are all normal now, cpu never gets above 45c under load.

Still running 1.15 volts A10-5700 @ 3400mhz / 8gb 1.5 volts @ 1600mhz, but I really would like to get rid of this damn board.
It's worthless.


I don't know VRM temps (is there a program that read their temps ? i don't know of many temp progs) I don't even know if MoBo is supposed to have VRM temp sensor blushsmiley.gif

However, i don't think they are that high...the case is cold and no matter i never put my fingers in a VRM to check it out , i did in the APU heatsink and was dead cold biggrin.gif

With all the Undervoltage that i'm doing , including of the RAM, no matter the frequencies that i'm using, i don't think they are dangerously hot....but if there's a software that reads their temps, tell me what is it and i will measure...

Tonight i gonna measure CPU and MoBo temps and check out power drains and i will report back.
Last time i check CPU was 44 to 50C MAX (playing games) but that was before i pushed further the frequencies (and undervolted RAM).
post #32 of 51
I'm interested in the vrm temps as well. If you're not brave enough to put your fingers on the vrms, you could place a small heatsink on it while fully loaded, (you could use office office binder clips if heatsinks are too large) and then after a while see if the heatsink is warm.
Can you post a screenshot of hwmonitor or a similar program?

I'm still deciding between the A85 and the A88. The A85 has an extra sata port and vrm heatsinks.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/FM2A85X-ITX/?cat=Specifications
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I'm interested in the vrm temps as well. If you're not brave enough to put your fingers on the vrms, you could place a small heatsink on it while fully loaded, (you could use office office binder clips if heatsinks are too large) and then after a while see if the heatsink is warm.
Can you post a screenshot of hwmonitor or a similar program?

I'm still deciding between the A85 and the A88. The A85 has an extra sata port and vrm heatsinks.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/FM2A85X-ITX/?cat=Specifications

It's not a question of bravery...the case is a bit overcrowded and takes a bit of bit to dismantle...by that time i'm sure the VRMs cooled a bit...i prefer to use software anyway, because i prefer to have readings and if possible a log during gameplay.

I gonna check with HWMonitor.
post #34 of 51
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Temperature Readings are in ! smile.gif

Finally i publish some temperatures readings, FANs load, etc.
As usual go to 1st message in 1st page of this thread and check near end of that message for values, software used, etc....of course these values are with APU and RAM with UPDATE 2 settings.
post #35 of 51
Dear AJSB:
hello, I'm very interested in this board. I want to build a HTPC with it, using the upcoming A8-7600 APU (maybe it will come out this summer - I hope! In the meantime, I think I'll buy one of the cheapest, only to try this ASRock).
The availability of a mSATA connector is a great attractive.
I'm planning to run a RAID-10 array on the integrated AMD SATA controller, and I want to use a mSATA SSD as a Windows 8.1 boot drive. The RAID array will act as a storage for my TV recordings, AVI/MKV movies, music, and so on. My HTPC software will be the "legendary" XBMC.
I have two questions.
Do you think this board will boot correctly from mSATA? There are some settings in BIOS related to it? Or do you suggest to avoid mSATA and use a more conventional 2,5 in. SATA SSD?
And: if you accidentally leave a USB memory stick connected to the system when you shutdown the PC, at reboot it will try to load o.s. from that stick, instead of the boot HDD, leading to a "boot device not found" message? I found that is a rather common issue... Maybe there is some setting in BIOS to prevent it, such "don't boot from other device". But I also have to say that I think a Windows 8.1 setup in EFI mode will definitely solve the problem...

Thanks for your attention (and a Happy Easter, too!)
Leo.
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Hi Leo,

I don't have (yet) an mSATA card so i'm not 100% sure but i do believe, in special if you use reputable brands like Samsung, that there will be NO problems....

Cheap brands (or not so reputable brands in the market) of mSATA cards should be avoided because i heard, not related with this MoBo but in general, they have problems to boot...i remember read a test of a brand of mSATA with a MoBo that never had problems with other cards and it failed to boot.

If you want to be 100% sure to boot you might prefer use a standard SSD...


In BIOS both mSATA and the eSATA connectors are listed in the SATA devices...as long as a device is connected to one of those, we can then select them in the boot order.

However, i never tested with mSATA, i only tested with eSATA and with old BIOS 1.00 that had several problems making impossible to boot from eSATA besides i could not boot my APU with default BIOS configurations (like i wrote, i had to use a ATX 500W PSU for first boot with BIOS 1.00 and adjust settings in BIOS so i could boot...this problem was solved with BIOS 1.20 and i can boot 65W APU + DVD + 2.5" HDD with BIOS set to default values for this APU using the 72W PSU)..

I gonna test tonight (i'm using now BIOS 2.10) install OS in external 2.5" disk using eSATA connection and trying to boot from it...

As for forget a USB pen in a connector , switch it off and later when you boot if it goes to boot from pen, well, yes and no.

If you insert pen , go to BIOS and disable that pen (i'm talking about the pen itself and not the connector) , if you switch off rig and then boot again, it will not boot frompen but from HDD/SSD, if you don't disable it in BIOS, you can bet that it will try to boot from it....this actually for me is not a bad thing because i change a lot OS to make tests ,etc. and w/o this functionality with would be a PITA to select in BIOS the pen...

I only to use usb pens to transfer some occasional file(s) and then i remove them right away so the way this MoBo is not a bad thing for me.

As soon i have details , i will report.

...and talking about report, i'm making some experiments in my build with a....80x80x25 fan inside the case !

That thing really cools down the APU even now that temps are rising...its only a experiment, i gonna buy definitive 4pin fan next week to make final tests...
If everything goes well, i also will wait for launch of the A8-7600...and still want to power it with stock 72W PSU biggrin.gif

I had to sacrifice internal DVD but is still possible install two 2.5" HDD/SSD plus mSATA card wink.gif

PS: Happy Easter to you to and to anyone reading this smile.gif
Edited by AJSB - 4/19/14 at 12:11pm
post #37 of 51
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PS:

I just installed an OS in a external HDD using eSATA connector and everything went smooth like it was supposed smile.gif
No problem booting....

As for mSATA , i still don´t have an mSATA because i was thinking to buy a 1TB mSATA and use a single HDD plus DVD, those TB mSATA are still expensive and so i was dragging my feet to buy one of them...now that in principle i gonna drop the DVD, i might end up with two HDDs inside the case and finally buy a mSATA card but much cheaper for booting and runs apps from it....possibly a 120GB or a 240GB mSATA card will be enough.
post #38 of 51
I use this MoBo with mSATA. No problems at all. mSATA - A-DATA SP310 32Gb. fastleo63 you should RTFM! wink.gif There are answers on all your questions. If you want to use mSATA, somewhere in BIOS are switch between mPCI-E and mSATA. If you want boot from mSATA, look for boot order. Then anyway it will boot from mSATA. If you want boot from flash sometimes, at MoBo start, choose Boot Menu. By the way, I use it with Win8.1 and Chalkelec 10'' touchscreen for my DIY project.

P.S. By the way, I read some rumors,that is possible to switch A10 7*** to lower power consumption as well. Like 45W or 65W. But didn't find any real feedback, yet.
Edited by Aivars - 4/21/14 at 8:47am
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I use this MoBo with mSATA. No problems at all. mSATA - A-DATA SP310 32Gb. fastleo63 you should RTFM! wink.gif There are answers on all your questions. If you want to use mSATA, somewhere in BIOS are switch between mPCI-E and mSATA. If you want boot from mSATA, look for boot order. Then anyway it will boot from mSATA. If you want boot from flash sometimes, at MoBo start, choose Boot Menu. By the way, I use it with Win8.1 and Chalkelec 10'' touchscreen for my DIY project.

P.S. By the way, I read some rumors,that is possible to switch A10 7*** to lower power consumption as well. Like 45W or 65W. But didn't find any real feedback, yet.

Thanks for your feedback , if it boots with the ADATA mSATA, it will boot with all mSATA....ADATA was precisely the one i read a review with other model of MoBo that failed to boot tongue.gif
However, it might been card capacity and/or firmware related...dunno...

As for the A10s also have cTDP option, i read that also , dunno if it works with this MoBo or not, anyway, IMHO, it´s IRRELEVANT because the info i have is that setting a A10 Kaveri to 45W makes its cores run at 1100MHz each, witch in my view is ridiculously low frown.gif
I bet that my undervolted A6-5400K at 3600 MHz beats that things both in total system power drain and performance at a fraction of the cost tongue.gif
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So I'm just curious, what are the dimensions of this board? I've looked all over but can't seem to find any place that lists the dimensions of it! Please let me know.
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