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this is my first ever watercooling setup and my system is ga-z68x-ud3h-b3, 3770k, 8GB crucial ballistix tracer ram ddr3, corsair tx650m, vapor-x 7950, xspc raystorm, koolance gpu-220, swiftech mcp655-b. so i've had the cpu watercooled for about a week while i waited on the copper shim to come in. so it came in today i was super excited to finally do my gpu! so super carefully pulled off stock heatsink. put on all my little ram heatsinks, put on my block w/ shim(TIM in between die/shim and shim/block) get it all put back together...nothing. i tried using vga instead of hdmi. nope. so i put the hdmi to the mobo. works fine. damn! i killed my card. thought maybe i cracked the die, so i pulled it out of the system to check...nope. so i put the stock hsf back on cause it still under warrenty and i was gonna send it back. put it back in my reg just to check and it came right on. what the hel? why won't it work w/ the water block on but works fine with the stock one? am i missing something? did i do something wrong? any suggestions cause i'd really like to put it underwater.
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this is my first ever watercooling setup and my system is ga-z68x-ud3h-b3, 3770k, 8GB crucial ballistix tracer ram ddr3, corsair tx650m, vapor-x 7950, xspc raystorm, koolance gpu-220, swiftech mcp655-b. so i've had the cpu watercooled for about a week while i waited on the copper shim to come in. so it came in today i was super excited to finally do my gpu! so super carefully pulled off stock heatsink. put on all my little ram heatsinks, put on my block w/ shim(TIM in between die/shim and shim/block) get it all put back together...nothing. i tried using vga instead of hdmi. nope. so i put the hdmi to the mobo. works fine. damn! i killed my card. thought maybe i cracked the die, so i pulled it out of the system to check...nope. so i put the stock hsf back on cause it still under warrenty and i was gonna send it back. put it back in my reg just to check and it came right on. what the hel? why won't it work w/ the water block on but works fine with the stock one? am i missing something? did i do something wrong? any suggestions cause i'd really like to put it underwater.

Is the full coverage block maybe keeping it from fully being inserted into the PCI-E socket? It might be a contact issue.
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the vapor-x is a custom pcb (wish i would of known before i bought it) so there is no full cover blocks available. i have the koolance gpu-220 block, and a handfull of zalman vga ram heatsinks (ZM-RHS1) it was fully seated. that was the first thing i checked
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the vapor-x is a custom pcb (wish i would of known before i bought it) so there is no full cover blocks available. i have the koolance gpu-220 block, and a handfull of zalman vga ram heatsinks (ZM-RHS1) it was fully seated. that was the first thing i checked



Reseat it and try and again. What TIM are you using? You may have caused a short so the graphics card didn't start as a safety failsafe.
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i was using that white TIM that came with the block. i doubt that it was a short as its non-conductive....well at least thats what it says. i'm gonna try to reseat again tomorrow. just poking around here over night to see if anyone had this happen maybe its something stupid.
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ok, so i reseated it this morning...worked...but it was awfully hot. hotter than the stock cooler. my stock cooler, at full tilt is right around 74-74C. but this was running ~82C. that sounded a little toasty. so i thought maybe i'm not seated all the way. went in a cris-cross and gave all the screws a little bit more. wouldn't come back on. put the stock cooler back on....fired right up...

here's my theory....there something not quite tight on the board, and when i get the block tight enough it warps the board, just enough, that what ever isn't tight stops making contact. so its not me, its a crap board. anyone else care to take a shot???
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Originally Posted by eclipsedude View Post

ok, so i reseated it this morning...worked...but it was awfully hot. hotter than the stock cooler. my stock cooler, at full tilt is right around 74-74C. but this was running ~82C. that sounded a little toasty. so i thought maybe i'm not seated all the way. went in a cris-cross and gave all the screws a little bit more. wouldn't come back on. put the stock cooler back on....fired right up...

here's my theory....there something not quite tight on the board, and when i get the block tight enough it warps the board, just enough, that what ever isn't tight stops making contact. so its not me, its a crap board. anyone else care to take a shot???

Sorry about the not so much mini necro, but I just thought of something.

If the problem only occurs when you tighten the waterblock, perhaps you broke a solder point on the board, so when there's no tension it makes contact, but when tension is applied it pushes the solder point away from the contact point on the PCB.

If you're still trying to get it to work take a look at the back of the board. Then, as you're applying tension with the waterblock mount look very closely at all the little metal pins on the back inverse to the waterblock, if any of them are moving perhaps one came loose.

If that's the case a simple spot touch with a soldering iron could make it work.
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