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op, your rig is prolly suffering from . . .

http://www.overclock.net/t/1457812/do-you-suffer-from-the-bf4-memory-leak-issue

i have my Virtual Memory to Auto, since playing BF4 and i am not sure if that helped but i never have the problems you are having. i don't use AB when gaming.

Also, if you are using origin, rightclick the BF4 icon and choose repair. there might be something wrong with the installation.
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op, your rig is prolly suffering from . . .

http://www.overclock.net/t/1457812/do-you-suffer-from-the-bf4-memory-leak-issue

i have my Virtual Memory to Auto, since playing BF4 and i am not sure if that helped but i never have the problems you are having. i don't use AB when gaming.

Also, if you are using origin, rightclick the BF4 icon and choose repair. there might be something wrong with the installation.

Mine is also on AUTO and I also suffer those problems, it's not the Virtual Memory.

At least I don't think it is, because my RAM is far from being fully used, and sometimes the issue appears for a while and then dissapears out of nowhere.
    
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Mine is also on AUTO and I also suffer those problems, it's not the Virtual Memory.

At least I don't think it is, because my RAM is far from being fully used, and sometimes the issue appears for a while and then dissapears out of nowhere.

use AB and see how much RAM is being used during the game. you know, it could also be your version of win8.
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Here you go, it just happened again. I noticed I had a Youtube video paused by the way, but sometimes it happens without any video opened in background.








Notice it's not the CPU or the GPU specifically, it's both spiking at the same time, I don't know what's causing it, but it's not just me here, thread OP also has it and I know some other people with these very same issues.

Not to mention when there's intense action (Like the tank explosion in my video) the game may simply freeze for a few seconds..

ok it looks familiar to the situation I had recently.

go into origin, and check if your origin overlay in game is off. that checkbox needs to be empty not greyed out. I'm beta testing new origin releases and one of them turned this crap on and it affects performance.

the second thing is, if the above doesn't do it for you, install display driver uninstaller and go into safe mode and delete all amd stuff and reboot. reinstall clean.

if the above doesn't help. check power saving on cpu, log the cpu usage maybe it's throttling.
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ok it looks familiar to the situation I had recently.

go into origin, and check if your origin overlay in game is off. that checkbox needs to be empty not greyed out. I'm beta testing new origin releases and one of them turned this crap on and it affects performance.

the second thing is, if the above doesn't do it for you, install display driver uninstaller and go into safe mode and delete all amd stuff and reboot. reinstall clean.

if the above doesn't help. check power saving on cpu, log the cpu usage maybe it's throttling.

Origin Overlay is the first thing I disable when installing it. I already tried DDU to do a clean driver install. And CPU is not throttling, it's at constant 4.5GHz while gaming and never exceeds 65ºC (GPU's stay below 50ºC).
    
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Origin Overlay is the first thing I disable when installing it. I already tried DDU to do a clean driver install. And CPU is not throttling, it's at constant 4.5GHz while gaming and never exceeds 65ºC (GPU's stay below 50ºC).

In this case, do you have a dual monitor setup by any chance? I would fire up performance manager in windows to see the graph for the cpu, same with afterburner graphs. later check what runs in the background. so game in full screen on one and check the other one for cpu dips (usage, not frequency) on graph on second screen that align with stutter on screen

I could also use some bigger screenshots because latency and frame times arent readable on those that you posted.


how is your ulps? disabled? enabled? are you using overdrive in ccc or pure afterburner oc?

how are your chipset drivers? up to date?

how is gaming on one card?

are you using vsync? because strangely on your screenshot you seem to hover around 57fps. and vsync is bugged in cf in latest drivers
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In this case, do you have a dual monitor setup by any chance? I would fire up performance manager in windows to see the graph for the cpu, same with afterburner graphs. later check what runs in the background. so game in full screen on one and check the other one for cpu dips (usage, not frequency) on graph on second screen that align with stutter on screen

I could also use some bigger screenshots because latency and frame times arent readable on those that you posted.


how is your ulps? disabled? enabled? are you using overdrive in ccc or pure afterburner oc?

how are your chipset drivers? up to date?

how is gaming on one card?

are you using vsync? because strangely on your screenshot you seem to hover around 57fps. and vsync is bugged in cf in latest drivers

He uses Vsync OFF with an FPS limiter set to 57 fps to reduce tearing.
He uses crossfire and has ULPS disabled.
Chipset drivers don't really do anything on Windows 8.1. (Well, at least the Intel INF does not do anything)
He uses MSI AB for his overclocking and GPU monitoring.

@Kcuestag, are you using hyperthreading?
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could you try and limit what loads up when you boot into desktop. like go in msconfig and limit the apps. fire up the game. turn off browser. see how it behaves.


on my crossfire setup, I noticed that some scenarios when I have a few chrome windows open, causes a perf hit.
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In this case, do you have a dual monitor setup by any chance? I would fire up performance manager in windows to see the graph for the cpu, same with afterburner graphs. later check what runs in the background. so game in full screen on one and check the other one for cpu dips (usage, not frequency) on graph on second screen that align with stutter on screen

I could also use some bigger screenshots because latency and frame times arent readable on those that you posted.


how is your ulps? disabled? enabled? are you using overdrive in ccc or pure afterburner oc?

how are your chipset drivers? up to date?

how is gaming on one card?

are you using vsync? because strangely on your screenshot you seem to hover around 57fps. and vsync is bugged in cf in latest drivers

If you right click the images and open them in new tab it should display at original resolution (1440p).

I only have one monitor, vsync is off but frames are limited to 62 via the fps command in BF4 (Unlimites framerate gives same issues). Showing 57 is just a coincidence, sometimes it hovers well below 40s even 30s fps.

ULPS is disabled, cards are at stock (tried power target to 50 percent too).

CPU is not choking, all cores are well below the 60-70 percent of usage.

Gaming on one card (CFX disabled in CCC) is just fine. Gaming in Windowed mode to use one card but CFX enabled in CCC gives as crap results as fullscreen with two gpus.

MSI AB shows RAM usage has high as 6GB overall (BF4 uses around 2-2.8GB) but it showed Pagefile as big as 11GB! Memory leak? Or that Pagefile size is normal?

By the way, I tried closing ALL software but Origin and Chrome with Battlelog, and issue still happens.

It only happens with BF3 and BF4, any other game runs completely fine, so I'd blame it on either AMD Drivers not having decent profiles for these two games on R9 CFX cards, or DICE broke it.

I've already reported this thread to AMD and hopefully they find a solution either on their own or together with DICE.
    
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If you right click the images and open them in new tab it should display at original resolution (1440p).

I only have one monitor, vsync is off but frames are limited to 62 via the fps command in BF4 (Unlimites framerate gives same issues). Showing 57 is just a coincidence, sometimes it hovers well below 40s even 30s fps.

ULPS is disabled, cards are at stock (tried power target to 50 percent too).

CPU is not choking, all cores are well below the 60-70 percent of usage.

Gaming on one card (CFX disabled in CCC) is just fine. Gaming in Windowed mode to use one card but CFX enabled in CCC gives as crap results as fullscreen with two gpus.

MSI AB shows RAM usage has high as 6GB overall (BF4 uses around 2-2.8GB) but it showed Pagefile as big as 11GB! Memory leak? Or that Pagefile size is normal?

By the way, I tried closing ALL software but Origin and Chrome with Battlelog, and issue still happens.

It only happens with BF3 and BF4, any other game runs completely fine, so I'd blame it on either AMD Drivers not having decent profiles for these two games on R9 CFX cards, or DICE broke it.

I've already reported this thread to AMD and hopefully they find a solution either on their own or together with DICE.

I'll start from the end. Whether it's 13.11 v9.5 betas, or the 13.12 whql or the latest 13.30 kaveri driver, I have no issues. there is a stutter or two from time to time but I also have these when gaming single card, (got my game on hdd)



I still think it's user error somewhere or, maybe not so much of user error as system is configured to do something, like something has to have a high usage % the background while you game and it introduces stutter, because you say it's not everytime but every other time.

I know bf4 is a grumpy kid, like sometimes not everything works off the bat, like I start the game and I see red and yellow on the fps counter. some stutter, I have to alt - tab a few times so it catches it's in crossfire or I donno gets its fullscreen focus right. I'm off to work in a minute, but we gotta sort your situation out so don't sell those cards just yet.


does this happen also without cpu oc, at stock cpu?
Edited by velocityx - 1/15/14 at 11:21pm
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