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Since the AMD R9 290 just came out, and Nvidia just lowered their price on the 780, I was wondering if anyone had input on which one to buy. I know the 780 is quieter, draws less power, and is cooler, but is it really worth the extra $100?
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Since the AMD R9 290 just came out, and Nvidia just lowered their price on the 780, I was wondering if anyone had input on which one to buy. I know the 780 is quieter, draws less power, and is cooler, but is it really worth the extra $100?
It's really up to you, honestly. The 290 is a beast of a card. It trades blows and even exceeds the performance of the GTX 780 at times. The main draw back of the 290 and 290x lineup is the flimsy, terribad reference fan. It is noisy and extremely ineffective. Now, this can be remedied with your custom fan curve or an aftermarket cooler. Your case also has to be well ventilated because the card was made to run HOT.
The 780s at the moment are an incredible deal at the moment. Quite a good selection of cards, ranging from reference with an actually half-decent stock cooler, to a non-reference 780. But if we are talking reference to reference, the 780 offers less noise, less power draw as you mentioned. But the catch is the $100 premium. Though, you do receive 3 free games with a 780 purchase, so that could sway your choice.
It really comes down to the price. The 290 is hard to beat at the price and I would usually have a hard time justifying not to buy it. It just comes down if you can take the noise and heat if you went reference 290.
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Since this is the watercooling section I assume you are watercooling the card. If so then the GTX780 w/o a doubt. If you aren't afraid of a bit of voltage they will clock extremely well. 1300MHz+ was easily enough on both of the reference cards I have had. A Classified would be even easier. At 1300MHz a GTX780 will easily beat a 290X and still pull quite a bit less power.
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HD 290.
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Since this is the watercooling section I assume you are watercooling the card. If so then the GTX780 w/o a doubt. If you aren't afraid of a bit of voltage they will clock extremely well. 1300MHz+ was easily enough on both of the reference cards I have had. A Classified would be even easier. At 1300MHz a GTX780 will easily beat a 290X and still pull quite a bit less power.
I agree with the OC'ed 780 pulling less power than the Oc'ed 290. But looking through the 290x thread, some users are pulling impressive figures. Some Users are hitting 1300+ underwater.

Edit: OP, if you are going underwater, I say 290. If you aren't, then the 780 gets my vote until aftermarket 290s hit.
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290 gets my vote as well,
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780 is the obvious choice until 290 non reference cards come out. We have to see then how those cards are performing and what they are priced at.
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I agree with the OC'ed 780 pulling less power than the Oc'ed 290. But looking through the 290x thread, some users are pulling impressive figures. Some Users are hitting 1300+ underwater.

1300MHz is easy on a watercooled GTX780. I fold w/ mine 24/7 @ 1346MHz no problem. This is just on reference cards. Something like a Classified should clock even higher.
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Only reference 9 series cards are out right now. You are comparing custom PCBs to reference AMD. The sad thing is that AMD is still competing on this level of water cooled gpu performance. If you want the best, you will wait for custom PCB 9 series.

In addition, there is also the fact that most benchmarks are on previous generation games. They are games made for the ancient ps3 and xb360. Keplar is a stripped down, simplified architecture that is only good for fairly simple previous Gen scenes. This is where the cry of, "Oh, Keplar is so efficient!", comes from. Nvidia sapped all of the compute power out of Fermi, banking on the fact that customers would appreciate lower power consumption and noise over compute. This also made them more money, because they could now sell compute-oriented products at a premium.
It was a gamble. It paid of short term. Long term, I doubt NVIDIA counted on AMD controlling consoles in the way they do. Gpu compute will become essential in next Gen games. In a year, everyone will wonder how the 780 was even considered against an 290. Why? The benchmarks will all be newer, more complex games that focus on the gpu's compute ability.
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I agree with the OC'ed 780 pulling less power than the Oc'ed 290. But looking through the 290x thread, some users are pulling impressive figures. Some Users are hitting 1300+ underwater.

1300MHz is easy on a watercooled GTX780. I fold w/ mine 24/7 @ 1346MHz no problem. This is just on reference cards. Something like a Classified should clock even higher.

You would need that classy just to keep up, and you'd need it to push closer to 1500mhz to have parity scores wise. The classy is a rather impressive card though, with some examples over 1400 on air.
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