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780Ti is more expensive than it should. i would accep that price 4gb vram with good gpgpu performance at least.about cpu i didnt read whole thread,sorry

I know you didn't since he said in the OP he didn't want 290x's I personally don't even know if the 780ti or the 290x is faster or more performance per dollar.

I wish I had the kind of money to find out though biggrin.gif
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I wouldn't be so sure an i5 doesn't bottleneck 2x 780 ti's in bf4 64 man server. The 64 man servers really push cpu usage up pretty high. I know on my setup with 2x 7950's and a 3570k which is not really any slower than a 4670k I had some bottle necking issues. Whether they were due to poor optimization or what I can't say.

This is why I'm actually moving to an i7. Yes, supposedly bf4 has problems with HT right now but i'm pretty sure in the future dice is going to get everything figured out and having an i7 is going to be a benefit over an i5, especially for xfire/sli setups. and like sharpshooter said if HT is a problem in the mean time it can always be disabled easily.

With two beast video cards anything under an i7 is stupid imo even if it doesn't technically bottleneck for most games. If you end up bottlenecking on one game you really want to play then you would have to upgrade cpu's anyway.

I don't know if sharpshooter even said he plays bf4 but if so an i7 is definitely a benefit with those vid cards.

Oh and by the way sharpshooter it would be awesome to see you do a build log. I've helped people pick out parts on here numerous times and I don't think any of them have ever done a build log, it would be really cool to see a computer get put together that I helped with thumb.gif

If you do play Battlefield 4 you should totally PM me your origin ID I need more people to play with when I actually get my gaming rig back together here next week some time. biggrin.gif
Hey man, I'll do a log for ya when I get the parts. It won't be a step by step of every little thing. Just some pics and such. And yes I do play Battlefield 3/4 Origin is Sharp15
Edited by SharpShoot3r07 - 11/9/13 at 4:15pm
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I wouldn't be so sure an i5 doesn't bottleneck 2x 780 ti's in bf4 64 man server. The 64 man servers really push cpu usage up pretty high. I know on my setup with 2x 7950's and a 3570k which is not really any slower than a 4670k I had some bottle necking issues. Whether they were due to poor optimization or what I can't say.

This is why I'm actually moving to an i7. Yes, supposedly bf4 has problems with HT right now but i'm pretty sure in the future dice is going to get everything figured out and having an i7 is going to be a benefit over an i5, especially for xfire/sli setups. and like sharpshooter said if HT is a problem in the mean time it can always be disabled easily.

AFAIK, the only difference in performance you'll see is if HT is enabled.


I definitely agree with you that if you want to future-proof, get an i7. DICE probably will get HT figured out, but as of right now, you won't see much of a difference if HT is disabled. Anyway, he should get whatever he wants and whatever will suit him best. But you bring up valid points thumb.gif
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AFAIK, the only difference in performance you'll see is if HT is enabled.


I definitely agree with you that if you want to future-proof, get an i7. DICE probably will get HT figured out, but as of right now, you won't see much of a difference if HT is disabled. Anyway, he should get whatever he wants and whatever will suit him best. But you bring up valid points thumb.gif

You don't own the game or the CPU in question and you use an older game that runs very differently. Then someone comes along and essentially says the very some thing I just did and you suddenly turn camp. I don't get it. And is almost sounds like you are recommending that he compromise just to validate your own purchase. I don't know what to say. Sounds like OP is set and on his way so no need to continue this.
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You don't own the game or the CPU in question and you use an older game that runs very differently. Then someone comes along and essentially says the very some thing I just did and you suddenly turn camp. I don't get it. And is almost sounds like you are recommending that he compromise just to validate your own purchase. I don't know what to say. Sounds like OP is set and on his way so no need to continue this.

You are correct, I don't own the game or the CPU but I have friends that do. I've toyed around with their systems because they don't like to OC so I do it for them and have had good results with a 4670k. Furthermore, why are you butt hurt about me validating his post but not yours...? I said that I agreed with you that if he wanted to future proof he should go with the i7 but didn't think it necessary for BF4 to go i7 as long as his i5 had a moderate overclock. I agree with you that in theory HT will help and if DICE can optimize the game so that it works with HT, it will definitely be the better purchase.

Again, I wasn't suggesting he compromise, just that if he wanted to save some cash he could go 4670k and be fine with it. If you're looking for validation, good job, you were right. thumb.gif
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Hey man, I'll do a log for ya when I get the parts. It won't be a step by step of every little thing. Just some pics and such. And yes I do play Battlefield 3/4 Origin is Sharp15

cool i'll get ya added we will def have to play.
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You are correct, I don't own the game or the CPU but I have friends that do. I've toyed around with their systems because they don't like to OC so I do it for them and have had good results with a 4670k. Furthermore, why are you butt hurt about me validating his post but not yours...? I said that I agreed with you that if he wanted to future proof he should go with the i7 but didn't think it necessary for BF4 to go i7 as long as his i5 had a moderate overclock. I agree with you that in theory HT will help and if DICE can optimize the game so that it works with HT, it will definitely be the better purchase.

Again, I wasn't suggesting he compromise, just that if he wanted to save some cash he could go 4670k and be fine with it. If you're looking for validation, good job, you were right. thumb.gif

Did the systems you talk about have 2 video cards? Because I know my 3570k @ 4.5ghz was pegged near 100% usage and it was causing me not to get full load on both my 7950's.

What actually helped me was upgrading from windows 7 to windows 8.1 For some reason BF4 runs better on windows 8.1

My cpu was still pegged near 100% usage on 8.1 but the cards did not seem to be bottlenecked. So yea an i5 with a good Oc probably SHOULD work but all factors counted for, it seems to have a hard time depending on the exact situation.
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You are correct, I don't own the game or the CPU but I have friends that do. I've toyed around with their systems because they don't like to OC so I do it for them and have had good results with a 4670k. Furthermore, why are you butt hurt about me validating his post but not yours...? I said that I agreed with you that if he wanted to future proof he should go with the i7 but didn't think it necessary for BF4 to go i7 as long as his i5 had a moderate overclock. I agree with you that in theory HT will help and if DICE can optimize the game so that it works with HT, it will definitely be the better purchase.

Again, I wasn't suggesting he compromise, just that if he wanted to save some cash he could go 4670k and be fine with it. If you're looking for validation, good job, you were right. thumb.gif

While I fully understand and respect value/price OP doesn't seem to have any issue with budget. I'm not "butthurt", I just don't understand some people's thought processes. BF4 is the most demanding title released yet (overall) and should be used as a point of reference moving forward. Far better to over build than under build. And you don't seem to understand where the gaming industry is headed. So good enough for now is going to come back and bite you in the butt unless you can deal with compromises which OP stated he doesn't want to experience.
Edited by Slightly skewed - 11/9/13 at 8:40pm
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A nice, balanced build. Your PSU will be able to handle that build without an issue, so long as you're not thinking about overvolting outside of the PrecisionX/Afterburner limits (in English: you'll be able to overclock the CPU and 2 GPUs, but you wont be able to soft-mod your cards and run higher-than-designed voltage overclocks).

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All other discussion from the peanut gallery concerning 290X vs 780TI and i5 vs i7 seems kind of irrelevant to this thread. If you have a preference for one or the other, that is your prerogative to pick it, but it is by no means a blanket rule that "other people should pick what you think is best". Different horses, different courses.
    
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A nice, balanced build. Your PSU will be able to handle that build without an issue, so long as you're not thinking about overvolting outside of the PrecisionX/Afterburner limits (in English: you'll be able to overclock the CPU and 2 GPUs, but you wont be able to soft-mod your cards and run higher-than-designed voltage overclocks).

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All other discussion from the peanut gallery concerning 290X vs 780TI and i5 vs i7 seems kind of irrelevant to this thread. If you have a preference for one or the other, that is your prerogative to pick it, but it is by no means a blanket rule that "other people should pick what you think is best". Different horses, different courses.

Looks good, except no SSD. If you are that strapped for cash honestly a 780 SLI would have been just fine.
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