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i got no reason to dump my csw v2 for a while.
I bought a CSW V2 and never looked back. Unlike my TX wheel that started to lose FFB over a very short stint, the csw v2 is strong for hours with no noticeable fade. It just works!
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I've had the ms sidwinder, logitech momo, g25, g27, and tx.... all plastic toys to me compared to the way more expensive v2 +rims+ csw hub+css sq 1.5+ pedals.

fanatec just gives you more rim options where as the logitech/TM rims are too small and have no quick release for alternate rims unless you mod them in or unscrew them off like the TM...

however if you want fanatec, you're going to pay for it... it ain't cheap compared to TM and logitech but it's miles better imo being metal and ffb to me is better.
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BTW I did a little search and ran into the DIY wheel, this is the FFB or used to be.
The wheel is called OSW = open sim wheel.

Kits are sold etc. or you can order it by parts from where you want. Motor price goes from $250 to a "don't even look at the price".
The total price is still $1k-2k but lots of these are including AccuForce are US market quite often because for some reason there is a community around $racing nascar etc. and they have the spare $ to buy these insane things. Simracing is not as popular in Europe really especially not in way that people would invest so much money into it.
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BTW I did a little search and ran into the DIY wheel, this is the FFB or used to be.
The wheel is called OSW = open sim wheel.

Kits are sold etc. or you can order it by parts from where you want. Motor price goes from $250 to a "don't even look at the price".
OSW is a great option for those looking for more FFB strength. I'm happy with my csw v2 for now.
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OSW is a great option for those looking for more FFB strength. I'm happy with my csw v2 for now.
Yeah it's a good wheel, shouldn't overheat like V1 anymore wink.gif
Dunno how is the strength, precision of FFB with the belt drive or possible belt drive issues, never drove with it.

As I've said before you don't need a $2k wheel to go fast around the track biggrin.gif Which is the beauty of simracing that it is much more affordable than real racing. But I so dig these direct drive wheels drool.gif
post #1116 of 1632
sim racing is very popular in europe more so than america as we have alot of dudebro console gamers. Just look at the rooms in assetto corsa... they are all European lol. I rarely bother with mp in AC because of the pings from europe.
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AC is a European game.
$racing an American one.

You're not missing anything with public online AC servers, people can't drive let alone race. It's taking Kunos years, damn years to bring basic features but it's slowly, very slowly changing. Finally a decent tyre model and preprogrammed pitstops although I think you need an app for that. The pros I know at least the few that were in AC left as AC wasn't good enough for leagues and championships, it lacked and maybe still does some important features that pros are used to from previous sims and do come in handy. They went to RF2 as it has the needed features.

AC is decent but it is kind of a crossover between arcade and a sim when it comes to overall execution of the product and it's features. Physics are sim like though but still can be a PITA at times or outright wrong. I didn't like RF1 nor RF2 myself always felt dated and clumsy with a need to mod it to get a decent sim out of it.

Surprisingly there are quite a few US channels on YT for simracing yet I don't know a single one European made. But then it's almost the same with PC parts reviews too.
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That's what I did biggrin.gif

Though I talked with someone who has built their own DD wheel and I found places on web where people did so, research on it, etc. and the cost is very similar to what the AccuForce costs, dunno about taxes etc. but then getting the hardware for DIY wheel might not be as easy to just pick up in local hardware store either, at least not in Europe. I think the motors were ordered from overseas. And you won't get any software but on the other hand you can build and customize it how you want. Not that the Accuforce isn't configurable/moddable, I bet it is.
G27 is fine, it's one of the "basic" but fast wheels, as in simracers can drive fast with it. Sure you can get a strong FFB direct drive wheel but if you can't set it up right you may actually be slower with it than with the G27. Most have some DFP, G25, G27 or such wheel, you don't need an expensive wheel to drive fast.
If those Fanatec wheels are hard to get in Canada, forget them and get the Thrustmasters, 300, 500 or wait and see how the new DD wheel is going to be, they are belt drive, actually they say dual belt drive. Fanatec has all the cool options of wheels and accessories but that is what's making wheels/rigs expensive, having to pay for every darn thing.

Hopefully they bring some more affordable DD wheel with 3 pedals. I don't care for an H-shifter and am fine with it being an extra. But I do like me to have 3 pedals so I don't have to use button clutch. I would still setup the wheel paddles via vjoy and freepie to simulate H-shifter in AC though, I just can't stand that AC auto clutch dumb assistant when you don't configure H-shifter.
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This is the vJoy+FreePIE, it works on modern x64 OS.
It has a basic FreePIE script attached which you can modify to your liking, I have my own with the H-shifter, brake balance adjustment, brake strength adjustment, engine brake reduction adjustment since Kunos messed up some cars and they have insanely strong engine braking and without pedals I can't give it that tiny bit of gas while braking so I have it automated when I turn it on it allows me to setup the cars proper and not have to have a messed up setup that works around that stupid large engine brake force, when I was driving P1 I have automatic DRS so I don't have to turn it on all the freakin' time and it stays on as much as possible so I get lower rear downforce and better steering. Sometimes Kunos changes things like DRS etc. and I have to rewrite stuff to work with the changes again. They like to change the DRS all the time.

Man there are a LOT of extra things on that Thrustmaster one.... But at the same time, it does seem like all the extra buttons and knobs are within reach, but out of the way when racing. Wonder if there will be matching pedals, or if they'll be extra.

I'm not expecting a more expensive wheel to make me faster, I just want one that feels nicer, and it would also be a neat perk if when racing it didn't vibrate my entire floor (although that just might be a case of me needing to put my Obutto R3volution on a riser box/platform of some sort instead of directly on the floor). Oh, and a more expensive wheel definitely looks nicer, and I also wouldn't mind having some pedals that are adjustable so they have more feel - my G27 pedals are.... Well, they do the job but there's virtually no feel to them. I'm sure a GTeye spring mod would help, and since it's only about $66 CAD I'll probably order it soonish. I'll probably try the springs first because spending almost $2,900 CAD to get a full Fanatec rig is kind of out of my price range right now tongue.gif

An h-shifter for me is technically optional, but at the same time I like the idea of having such for vehicles that used such.... It's also a personal preference thing I suppose ^_^;;;

Fanatec isn't necessarily hard to acquire here in Canada, it's just Simulation1 tacks on a few extra hundred in the end (it's about $400 CAD more expensive to buy through them as opposed to Fanatec direct, and that's INCLUDING any GST one would be charged - but on the flipside, Simulation1's shipping is faster, and they wouldn't be sending a few thousand dollars worth of stuff via USPS, so.... Tough call)
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I've had the ms sidwinder, logitech momo, g25, g27, and tx.... all plastic toys to me compared to the way more expensive v2 +rims+ csw hub+css sq 1.5+ pedals.

fanatec just gives you more rim options where as the logitech/TM rims are too small and have no quick release for alternate rims unless you mod them in or unscrew them off like the TM...

however if you want fanatec, you're going to pay for it... it ain't cheap compared to TM and logitech but it's miles better imo being metal and ffb to me is better.

Indeed, and price is something I did notice, but at the same time... Build quality appears to be there with Fanatec's offerings. Not as overkill as some of the even higher end stuff (AccuForce Pro, and say Heusinkveld pedals) but hubby also doesn't like the look of the higher end ones and says "not having that in my living room!", so Fanatec offers a nice balance I think ^_^
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BTW I did a little search and ran into the DIY wheel, this is the FFB or used to be.
The wheel is called OSW = open sim wheel.

Kits are sold etc. or you can order it by parts from where you want. Motor price goes from $250 to a "don't even look at the price".
The total price is still $1k-2k but lots of these are including AccuForce are US market quite often because for some reason there is a community around $racing nascar etc. and they have the spare $ to buy these insane things. Simracing is not as popular in Europe really especially not in way that people would invest so much money into it.

Looks interesting, but at the same time I think I'd rather pay a little bit more and get warranty and 30 minute out of the box setup. DIY also doesn't quite have that spousal acceptance factor to it either, so even if they're rather capable if hubby says no, it's a no go.
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Hmm I would put it this way, the strong DD wheels would dance around that floor not just vibrate biggrin.gif You really need a strong secure mounting the stronger your wheel FFB is, those strong ones can break hands, no joke, not a toy anymore, those motors could power a lawn mover or a small go cart or something
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Yeah better pedals was a reason why my team mate went for Fanatec GT3 and not the G27 I believe.

Hubby doesn't like cars? Strange wink.gif
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Hmm I would put it this way, the strong DD wheels would dance around that floor not just vibrate biggrin.gif You really need a strong secure mounting the stronger your wheel FFB is, those strong ones can break hands, no joke, not a toy anymore, those motors could power a lawn mover or a small go cart or something
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Yeah better pedals was a reason why my team mate went for Fanatec GT3 and not the G27 I believe.

Hubby doesn't like cars? Strange wink.gif

I'd consider an Obutto R3volution as a "reasonably secure" product, even if it isn't as nice as some of the other ones in similar (or slightly more expensive) pricing ranges.

Oh no, he does likes cars, specifically Trans Ams, and I'm probably going to get the year wrong but I think it was the '85 he liked the most (i'm an old school Toyota guy, absolutely loved my ae92 back in the day, and might, just maybe, pick up an ae86 one of these days because they seemed like rather fun cars...) It's just we like to keep things in our living room look rather good. i know it can seem like a silly thing to many, but since pretty much everything is in our living room, we have to keep it looking good. Hence why I'll probably be able to eventually upgrade to the RSeat N1 over my current Obutto R3volution because I can argue it fits a lot more of what I want (much more solid gearshift mounter, can have a handbrake if I want) and most importantly it just looks absolutely epic..
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