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Hello everyone. This is one of those "Should I buy this?" questions.

After doing plenty of research, I kind of figured that I want to build out an mATX system instead of an ATX system. However, I'm not in any rush and plan on doing the buildout sometime within the next 6 months.

I'll be using it mainly for audio/video editing, occasional gaming, work (Which entails systems administration) and media playback.

A few criteria before I start:
- Even though I won't be overclocking it for normal usage, I want the system built out as if I could overclock it.
- Reliability is paramount. I usually keep my systems for about 5 years or so before replacing them, so it has to be rock solid.
- I'd like high performance at a decent price point, without going into "Extreme" processors.
- I'd want the system to "Self-Manage" itself by dynamically adjusting fan speeds when needed.
- I'm going to stick with air cooling for now, but I may want to explore water cooling later. My only concern is reliability.
- Should run quiet under idle, but when really working hard I don't mind a bit of noise.

Now a few questions I have before I start out:
- Everyone is saying that DDR4 mainboards will be out within 6 months. Should I just wait or build out soon?
- For my uses, LGA2011 or LGA1150? I run many tasks at the same time and the price difference isn't that much.
- Since I am considering an LGA2011 system, should I wait until X79 is replaced with Haswell-E?

So, here's the components:

Case: Caselabs Mercury S5 case with 2 x MAC-126, 1 x MAC-102 w/ 38mm fan option, 1 x MAC-158, 1 x MAC-151

Rationale: Even thought it's not the cheapest case in the world, I keep my cases for very long periods of time. It seems like it'll fit everything I need and then some. Thinking about ordering this windowless with solid doors, but a ventilated top.

Fans: 5 x 120mm Panaflo Ultra High Speed Fans. (114.7 CFM @ 2705 RPM @ 45.5 dbA)

Rationale: Should be quiet when undervolted but a little noisy when the system is under load. I don't mind. Should I pick slower fans? Anyone have experience with these? I've had excellent reliability with Panaflo fans before in the past. They're real workhorses. Three fans on the top, one fan in the front and one fan in the back should provide good 45 degree airflow from front to back while providing negative pressure in the case.

CPU: Intel Core i7-4820 Processor @ 3.7 Ghz / 10 MB cache

Rationale: Comparing against the Intel Core i7-4771 or the 4770K, the performance is slightly better for multi-threaded applications, but is inferior for single threaded. I'll be slamming the CPU with heavy workloads from time to time when running video conversions and audio processing, but I shouldn't see much of a difference when gaming. The price difference is marginal here.

Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 SE2011

Rationale: Even though it is one of the more expensive air coolers on the market, it's also one of the best from what I've seen, without going into a Corsair H100 AIO solution. My concern about AIO solutions is the pump reliability.

Motherboard: Asus Rampage IV Gene

Rationale: I'm wondering if I should consider sticking with an X79 chipset. This mainboard has enough 6 Gb/s SATA ports on it for my purposes. The alternative is the Gigabyte GA-G1 Sniper M5, but that means going back to an X87 Chipset and a 4770K. The price difference between the two solutions isn't that much.

Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High Density Compound

Rationale: I've had very good luck with Arctic Silver in previous builds for the last 10 years or so. Any ideas here?

Memory: Patriot Viper 3 Series, Sapphire Blue Edition DDR3 16GB (2 x 8GB) PC3-19200 Dual Channel Kit

Rationale: Although, I'm not familiar with Patriot products, This is the fastest 16 GB RAM Kit I could find. It has 9-9-9-24 timings and is Intel XMP certified. My only concern is the height of these DIMM's could interfere with the heatsink.

Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 500 GB solid state drive

Rationale: Rather than going with a low capacity SSD and twin HDD's in RAID 1, I'm considering putting it all on SSD instead. The Samsung SSD's seem to represent good value for the money, but I'm also wondering if I should run two of these in RAID 1 for reliability, with the knowledge that I give up TRIM support. I know that large SSD's do perform better.

Optional Drives: LG 16x Internal Blu-Ray Writer & LG SuperMulti 24x DVD Writer

Rationale: Since DVD drives are cheap, I'd rather dedicate one for heavy use and leave the more expensive Blu-Ray burner for occasional backups and data transfer. I burn a LOT of DVD's and use it to play/rip a lot of CD's as well.

Video Card: GeForce GTX 780 3GB PCI-E w/ ACX Cooler

Rationale: I'm wondering if I should consider an AMD Radeon R9 290 instead. It's about $50 cheaper. I like the cooler on this card, but also like the previous stability and reliability I've had with nVidia products. (I'm uncomfortable with a 95 C operating temp.)

Sound Card: Asus Xonar Essence STX PCI-E Soundcard

Rationale: Even though I'll probably be using an external ADC to capture audio, it's very important to me to have an extremely good SNR and "Audiophile" quality audio leaving the machine. I'm wondering, should I just use the onboard audio TOSLINK and run an external DAC instead or is this worth all of the hype?

Serial/Parallel Port Card: StarTech 2S1P Native PCI Express Combo

Rationale: There are some devices I still use which require a serial port to operate properly. Don't ask. Just seems like a decent card to do the job and I'm indifferent on performance. If it operates at 115.2 kbps, it's good enough for me.

Power Supply: Corsair AX860i Digital Modular PSU

Rationale: I'd like a "Smart" power supply which can run passively at idle but ramp up the fan if need be. Some people on this forum have said that that the price premium isn't worth it, but apparently these integrate well with the Corsair C-Link solution.

Monitoring/Fan Control: Corsair C-Link Cooling Kit

Rationale: It seems like this interfaces into the PSU quite nicely and can also be used to dynamically control all of the system fans, but later on control a water pump if need be. My only reservation about this is how buggy people complain the software is. I could use the fan headers on the mainboard, but I want expandability in the future. It's this or an Aquacomputer, but it is overly expensive and hard to find in Canada. Any ideas here? I don't want to use a manual or semi-auto fan controller.

Eye Candy: Matrix Orbital GX24064-WB-BBI

Rationale: I like being able to see what's going on with the system at a glance when I want to. For the last 15 years, I've used their products in every one of my builds because they're so handy to get system stats at a glance.

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Now, I have a pair of Samsung SyncMaster 2443BW monitors (DVI Only) which I'll be re-using for this build, as well a generic Microsoft mouse and a Unicomp Customizer 104 Key USB Keyboard.

All In all, the entire system build, including case comes out to about $3400. I'm thinking that if I'm going to commit that kind of dough on a computer, I'm wondering if there are a few things I should wait on before proceeding.

Thank you everyone for your input.
post #2 of 4
No you should not buy that PSU

Its overpriced and the Corsair Link software works like .... and almost never give you 100% accurate numbers

So no waste of time and money

Its also overkill even with two GTX 780 cards

Also that CPU wont work on that motherboard not without a BIOS update
Edited by shilka - 11/9/13 at 2:00pm
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core I7 6850K Gigabyte X99 Ultra Gaming Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming Kingston HyperX DDR4 Savage 3000 MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 Evo WD Green WD30EZRX  WD Green WD40EZRX  WD Green WD60EZRX  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
WD Red WD80EFZX 8TB  LG CH12NS30 5x Noctua NF-A14 FLX Noctua NH-D15 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 64 Bit Asus PG279Q Corsair Gaming Strafe RGB EVGA SuperNova G2 750 watt 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Roccat Kone XTD Laser Roccat Sense Metor Sennheiser HD 598 
AudioAudioOtherOther
Onkyo TX NR646  Harman Kardon HKTS 60 CableMod E series PSU cable set CableMod LED Strips 
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Intel Core I7 6850K Gigabyte X99 Ultra Gaming Gigabyte GTX 970 G1 Gaming Kingston HyperX DDR4 Savage 3000 MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Samsung 840 Evo WD Green WD30EZRX  WD Green WD40EZRX  WD Green WD60EZRX  
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingCooling
WD Red WD80EFZX 8TB  LG CH12NS30 5x Noctua NF-A14 FLX Noctua NH-D15 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Windows 7 64 Bit Asus PG279Q Corsair Gaming Strafe RGB EVGA SuperNova G2 750 watt 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
Phanteks Enthoo Luxe Roccat Kone XTD Laser Roccat Sense Metor Sennheiser HD 598 
AudioAudioOtherOther
Onkyo TX NR646  Harman Kardon HKTS 60 CableMod E series PSU cable set CableMod LED Strips 
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post #3 of 4
First off, I would personally recommend Noiseblocker m12 fans. I find that anything above 20 Dba starts to get annoying.

The PSU is a good model, but it's overkill if you don't plan to go SLI. It's not really overpriced like shilka said; Looking at Newegg it's only like 20$ more than other PSUs in its range.

At this point, the NH D14 is getting a bit outdated. The Phanteks PHTC14PE and Thermalright Silver Arrow Extreme both perform better. Also, Noctua is now selling a quieter single tower cooler that performs almost as well as the NH D14 called the NH U14S

Everything looks good other than that thumb.gif

EDIT: Didn't see any HDDs; you're probably going to run out of space without them.
Putting SSDs in RAID 1 is pointless. They will last a long time without it. I would recomend getting a backup drive of some sort; whether it be RAID 1 HDDs, or an external.
Edited by Lefik - 11/13/13 at 1:09pm
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Intel 520 120gb WD Green 1tb slim slot load drive Noctua NHD14 
OSMonitorKeyboardCase
Windows 7 Ultimate QNIX Qx2710 @ 96hz Ducky Shine 3, MX Blacks, Magenta Silverstone RV04 
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Intel 520 120gb WD Green 1tb slim slot load drive Noctua NHD14 
OSMonitorKeyboardCase
Windows 7 Ultimate QNIX Qx2710 @ 96hz Ducky Shine 3, MX Blacks, Magenta Silverstone RV04 
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post #4 of 4
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I'm aware of requiring a BIOS update, so I'm a little leery of the X79 platform. I'm hoping Intel will come out with something newer soon.

I'll be speccing out the Mercury S5 with a drive cage in it, in case I need it later, should a 500 GB SSD not be enough. 1 TB HDD's are cheap.

OK, Thank you very much for the input so far everyone.
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