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Hello all, be gentle with me. I've been out of the loop in terms of upgrading my tower for quite a while. So I've had to do a bit of googlin', so a quick rundown so far...

I've always settled with amd because they suited my needs at a cheap price. In other words I don't have many games of the current gen that I give much of a hoot for on the PC, I still like to pop in Rise of Nations or Seven Kingdoms and I'm good for a couple of weeks tongue.gif

I was upgrading from an HD Radeon 4800 series, and after 4 years decided it was high time to upgrade, which resulted in me going for the R9 290 card recently released (including upgrading my cpu). I have to say I've been a bit disappointed thus far in the card.

I'm impressed with the card, but I'm not necessarily going for the highest consistent framerate on the latest games available. I was primarily going for longevity in my use of the card, especially in terms of A/V with Premiere Pro (especially in light of its recent expanded support in OpenCL).

But so far, I have seen absolutely no gains in terms of performance while in the workspace. The only points in which I see marked improvements, are from the use of certain color correction filters and render times getting cut down by only a margin, etc. Otherwise, playback of full scale previews (720, 60fps MPEG-4s) stagger and remain choppy despite the presence of the new card.

I understand CUDA has been supported for much longer, and I see recommendations for it everywhere, but at times it remains vague of what and how it may improve performance. For example, there are those that make mention that it helps in render times of just simple RAW video with no loaded filters. Or of playback previews and enabling them to be played back in realtime with no discernible hiccups. All of this, thus far unattainable with the R9 currently in my possession.

I'm seriously considering returning the R9, and reinstalling my old 4800. In the meantime wait for the turn of the new year to perhaps go for a GTX 780, likely the lightning. But, in doing so, am I to expect better performance with the use of CUDA over OpenCL in terms of render times and playback preview quality? Short of getting an actual workstation card, this is my only alternative. Are there those out there that can back my choice on a card, or perhaps better yet suggest one for this purpose? Is CUDA the way to go for what it is I'm expecting out of hardware acceleration out of the GPU?

One thing I do enjoy about the R9 is its dual link dvi's in BOTH outputs, versus just having a single link/dual link combo. I do wanna go for a quad monitor setup employing three catleaps* which would have been possible with the R9, but I would otherwise be forced to have a dual card setup in the case of nvidia's selection, which isn't viable in my current tower with my various other pci cards.

Anyways, any guidance?
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So your looking for a card (single?) that can output multiple monitors while also playing games fluently and also supporting the software you utilize? Sounds like a tall order at first but what software do you utilize?

Talking about 4850, still makes me want to get the 4850x2 for nostalgia sake.
    
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Thanks mod for the thread move, sry bout that smile.gif

Primarily a one-two punch of PPro & AE. The multi monitor setup however is especially important to me concerning screen real estate. One, I've always wanted to expand to a triple monitor setup (now @ 1440p) and primarily because second to none, is the amount of time I spend in a DAW. Screen space is a difficult thing to turn away from once you've worked with it, especially in DAWs when you're working with upwards of a hundred tracks, the plugins involved, etc.

Concerning render times with the R9, it turns out that when you select Hardware/GPU MPE - your render settings are set to automatically include "Max Render Quality". This in turns makes it appear as tho the MPE setting has no obvious benefit, with time runs more or less matching with the render times made when MPE is disabled with "Max Render Quality" disabled as well. My fault for not paying close enough attention concerning that. A quick test on color filters over a stretch of video yielded over 70% faster render. Will test a few other fx for now. Playback preview however, is still an issue sadly.

Again tho, I'm not concerned so much with performance in gaming, although considering I wish for snappy performance inside a V-editor, I suspect marked gaming performance kinda goes hand in hand in this case.
Edited by redoubt9000 - 11/9/13 at 9:21pm
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