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Poll Results: Do You Black Screen?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 43% of voters (147)
    Stock Clock Elpdia UEFI?
  • 18% of voters (61)
    Stock Clock Elpdia LEGACY?
  • 14% of voters (48)
    Stock Clock Hynix UEFI?
  • 5% of voters (18)
    Stock Clock Hynix LEGACY?
  • 18% of voters (62)
    Over Clock Elpdia UEFI?
  • 8% of voters (27)
    Over Clock Elpdia LEGACY?
  • 7% of voters (26)
    Over Clock Hynix UEFI?
  • 5% of voters (20)
    Over Clock Hynix LEGACY?
337 Total Votes  
post #731 of 1600
send it to RMA then. It looks like a hardware failure.
post #732 of 1600
It's mostly hardware failure. After receiving my new one (not refurbished) everything works fine.

Best tip is to NOT install CCC, for some reason it doesn't like the cards it's used to partially drive, Rubbish. I'm interested to see the Omega drivers for these once they're released.
post #733 of 1600
I have 290 tri-x oc Hynix. My first AMD gpu since radeon X800. I'm not too impressed so far.

After spending 2 weeks tweaking clocks, changing mining intensity, and game graphics settings, it went from having black screens 10 time an hour to 3-4 time a day.

While mining, using conservative overclocking the black screen do not happen while i'm on the computer (seriously), but instead happen as soon as its been mining around 3-4 hours with the computer being idle, then for unknown reason, the mining stop sending shares. CGWatcher ask for a miner restart, which often result in a black screen. If it does not, it only take 50-60minutes for the semi hang to happen again, with seemingly more chances of causing a black screen. -> In the Event Viewer, Its written as a critical kernel power failure.

While gaming, they happen truly at random, or at least, i havent noticed a clear pattern yet... but i guess i dont game as much. All i noticed concrete is often when it load new ressources, i get miny stuttering and subsequent stuttering, by loading more and more new resources cause a black screen, rarely just a crash (it recover) but if i dont reboot it just crash over and over, faster and faster, unless it goes black screen.

Lastly, occasionally, my computer refuse to reboot after such failure, i have to replug the 20+4 pin and then it run just fine. At first i thought this is all a bad PSU, but using tools to test PSU under small load show that voltage are stable. Sadly i can't plug my tester while gaming, but i still think its probably the r9 290 and not the PSU because this absolutely do not happen, even at higher load (than 400w) with a different setup (Nvidia cards). The PSU is TX750.

So, just one question here:

1- Is this the general 290/290x issue or is it something else?
post #734 of 1600
Black screen is general 290 /290x issue , but maybe yours is more severe. Also black screen is a very nonspecific failure . Not every one of them is the same, some of them maybe just doa cards.

i've been using the last beta drivers for the last few days. Not a single BSOD , i haven't had a black screen either.
I just left the Heaven benchmark on for 2 hour, no black screen. is 2 hours enough for a burn in test?

So can we say , the problem is solved?
post #735 of 1600
I see, well i did some fiddling around, making sure the 20+4 pin wires are properly positioned, used underclock and i havent had any black screen while gaming with miner at very low. Yesterday i wasnt sure because it was just a 3 hours game session but today i gamed many hours with perfect stability.

This only leave the ... unstable when idle issue...

Either way last i heard, i cant use current beta driver(not sure if this specific issues was fixed since last time i tried beta drivers), it has/had something very broken regarding the code used in mining coins, which drop my performance by a flat 30% and crashes just the same.

Until post 13.12 drivers get a stable release, that said release fix both major issue (hashing and black screen) i wouldnt call it fixed. At all. tongue.gif
post #736 of 1600

Yeah underclocking definitely helps. So can overclocking/overvolting. Doesn't help with random BSOD's tho. Just for GPU intensive stuff it seems. If you're getting random black screens, like just staring at your desktop, or typing something in notepad, i highly recommend you take the advice that was given to me and RMA

 

I had to unplug the AC Cord from my PSU every time it happened. Alot of times i had to go back into bios to get my system up again. Random Black Screens SUCKKKKKK

    
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post #737 of 1600
Indeed, well i wasnt able to fiddle with volt. The 290's volt is locked and the only way i found to change it is using a TRIXX application which simply suck. For instance its a + or - generic value so its not possible to know the value of the volt unit and its hard to pick a good volt value when its hidden.

It also lack many feature like MSI's and either way i need direct access to clocks and volt so i can tell my cmd line to set vddc (if i typed it right) to the value i need. A blind + or - is pointless for me.

Only way to "fix" this and the terrible memory and vram code is using the Stilt's magic bios for x290s but mine wont accept it for uncertain reasons.

I'm pretty concerned that the fixes for most users can't or doesn't work for me...
post #738 of 1600

By Overvolting, i meant using Afterburner/Trixx/GPUTweak. Upping the mV can help stabilize it. And it's weird that overclocking can help, but it does sometimes. But only for GPU Intensive stuff. You can also flash different BIOS to unlock certain features with some of those apps. Like the Asus Bios will unlock more voltage options.

 

Regardless though, you have a random black screen card like i did. RMA it. It's not a driver issue. It's a defective card =\

    
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post #739 of 1600
If only i could RMA it.

Trixx is the only app that let me touch the volt, but doesnt give a volt value. I only tried the official tri-x bioses but from what i gather, they're standard hynix reference board, so maybe there's a bios that would unlock the volt value in MSI afterburner?

Anyways, the reason why certain clock, for the 290 anyways, is more stable than stock is because the code for vram and memory clock is poorly done, thats why for hashing, underclocking to 1250 memclk is a performance boost and anything from 1300 to 1400 is a loss, while 1410-1450 is same as 1250 and only 1500 offer efficiency here for better performance, but anything around 1500 and higher is super unstable.
post #740 of 1600
Hello (and sorry for my english) smile.gif

Maybe I find some solution for those who cant RMA videocard for some reason (like me)

I have 290x with Elpida memory that blackscreened 10 times a day. I read this thread from start to end and try everything that I can (overclock, downclock, change PSU, change bioses, change OS, switch to UEFI). Nothing help me. My best result is 2 hours of blackscreen-free gameplay in BattleField 4 with 1000mhz on memory. So, I try to find another solution. I search through Internet and find modified BIOS for 290 and 290x on litecoin related forum.

Main thread link: https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=12830.0
Bioses link: https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=12830.msg121827#msg121827
Bioses for low ASIC quality cards: https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=12830.msg125148#msg125148

Attention: this bioses for MBA (reference) 290 & 290X cards only!

I flash this version of bios: MBA_C6710101-100_K2_AGR_STILTMXT_V32.zip (DPM7 - 1.2375V), downclock from 1250 to 1000 and there is no single blackscreen in a week!

Hope this help.
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