Originally Posted by BiG StroOnZ
That's because this is a much different proprietary product. All your examples are quite irrational in comparison to this G-Sync feature. Selling Pizza's with improved taste? Who does that? Dominos? Does anyone believe them? No. They still will order from them because they are already satisfied with their products. Cars with better handling? Most of the time they are reviewed by tons of Car Magazines, and they usually state this in commercials. No need to test that out yourself - professionals are doing it. Fragrance? Well if you are out and about purchasing a new fragrance you will be able to smell it yourself. Same goes for deodorant.
Here's what you are misunderstanding. Most of consumer electronics, especially computer products. Are purchased online. Not that many people go to stores like Fry's, Microcenter, Best Buy. Most people order their stuff from online vendors. People are going to read what it does and basically say this sounds like a glorified V-Sync for $100-175 more. If they try to use videos to show what it does, most people are going to see what it does and say wow. This does and looks exactly like V-SYNC. Why is this any better? Besides the scientific explanation they attempted to give me. But, Visually it looks identical to V-Sync. So then that means they are going to need tons of reviewers to send the G-Sync monitors to, and realistically. They aren't going to just send a sample monitor to them and let them be. There is going to have to be some sort of unfair play going on. Because if three or more reviewers get it and say this isn't any better than V-Sync. nVidia isn't going to want that to happen. So even if reviewers get the monitors, they are more than likely going to be inclined to have nothing but good things to say about them. The only people that might be able say whatever they want about it, is independent reviewers not tied to a website with partnerships.
The difference between this is and GPU's is benchmarks don't lie. You can see the numbers. You cant see the numbers with this.
Your argument doesn't jive with "real life". And benchmarks certainly can be "bent" to ft a predetermined conclusion. Pick any two cards that compete in the same niche and I can make either one "win" by simply choosing what resolution, what games are in the test, what drivers are used or whether they are tested at stock or overclocked.....love those handy "new drivers" tests that compare performance with one company's new drivers with the other company's old drivers.
But first I gotta say, I never met a single person who is satisfied with Dominos ..... and I have a hard time believing anyone ever actually smelled a deodorant (kinda requires it to be in actual use to tests its performance) before buying. You say cars are reviewed by tons of magazines....and no need to test it yourself .....this is the one statement that truly stands out is
"Most of the time they are reviewed by tons of Car Magazines, and they usually state this in commercials"
Are you kidding ?, for this to be in any way relevant, it would have to be true that no one is reviewing computer components, that there's no such things as on line reviews, computer forums or computer magazines. Or is it that your position is that the car reviews are in some way more relevant to car buyers than pc reviews are to computer users ?
And I most certainly understand that computer components are bought on line.....just like 90% of everything else I buy. The fact that we are discussing this topic on a computer forum kinda makes that suggestion a bit facetious. I have been buying computer components on line for 20 years....tho at first not via the web, it didn't exists as yet. .... had to read Computer Shopper and then order through thru my Compuserve account.
And yes, I have ordered pizza online too, my vitamins.....I never been in a LL Bean store but that's where most of my every day clothing and shoes come from. Phones, electronics, toys ... all online .... car parts, yeah online .... bedding and linens....online .... office supplies, tools and just about everything other than fresh produce / groceries comes from online though that option is available. Yes, even picked out and negotiated the price of my used car online.....I did take a test drive before I accepted it .... of course that test drive didn't last nearly as long as that 30 day exchange period that comes with online purchases. So again....no, .... PC components are no different than any of those other products I have been buying on line all these years.
The argument comes off like so many fan-biased ones in the past .....
PhysX adds realism and special effects but to the hardcore red fans "it doesn't matter"
Until recently, Eyefinity let ya use 3 screens to nVidia's 2 but to green team fans "it didn't matter" cause they didn't wanna use 3 screens w/o multiple cards anyway
Lightboost completely eliminates motion blur but to the red fans, "it doesn't matter"
The 290x overclocked beating the Titan at stock is somehow very significant but the fact that the old 780 overclocked beats the 290x overclocked is somehow not relevant
G-sync eliminates screen tearing and significantly improves screen clarity which, while not in its full element, is even clearly visible in online videos ... but here's another "it doesn't matter" argument
Looking here..... I didn't **see** the GTX overclocked beating the 290x overclocked, I saw the graphs and numbers at the end of the video. I did not need to see the benchmark run "in person" to verify the results for myself. Why should this be any different ?
You never saw the benchmarks being played you saw a text representation of the benchmark results, yet you find this acceptable tho you didn't see them "in person". I didn't **see** the tests that identified the frame lag / frame pacing issues with the AMD drivers, it was enough to see the test results , author's reasoning and conclusions. I didn't see the effects of Lightboost first hand before I made the decision to get a Lightboost capable monitor. It was enough to read that the reviewers observations, evidence and conclusions that it completely eliminated motion blur.
120 Hz Lightboost off
120Hz Lightboost on
That image was my only "visual" exposure to the technology pre-purchase but I easily found the reviewers comments, evidence presented and the author's conclusions to be persuasive. Upon receipt I found the experience confirmed the authors descriptions and conclusions. When I see tft central do their article on G-sync, I won't *need* to see everything that they looked at to draw their conclusions ..... their test results, direct impressions and conclusions will suffice .
Originally Posted by thomjak
So, i should wait if i want to buy a new screen?
Depends....aftermarket kits are available for the Asus 144 Hz monitorEdited by JackNaylorPE - 11/10/13 at 2:58pm