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Guess the pump is just dead already ?

nvm got it working, I turned the entire computer case upside down and it pushed the air out of the pump and it started working again. I had tried rocking it back and forth before and that didn't work so i'll have to remember just turning it upside down.


haha I had thought things went too smoothly on setup...... Got it all setup with no leaks and had forgot the mounting parts of the block, then get that fixed and the pump isn't working biggrin.gif

Glad you got the pump issue sorted out, those integrated pumps can be spotty and out of all that comes with your kit that is the one part with most issues from XSPC. The water block IMHO is the best I have worked with, I have a supremacy now but I got better performance with the XSPC block than I do with my Supremacy, but XSPC and I are at ods at this point so I'm purging their stuff from my builds.
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Glad you got the pump issue sorted out, those integrated pumps can be spotty and out of all that comes with your kit that is the one part with most issues from XSPC. The water block IMHO is the best I have worked with, I have a supremacy now but I got better performance with the XSPC block than I do with my Supremacy, but XSPC and I are at ods at this point so I'm purging their stuff from my builds.

why are you mad at them? i was pretty mad for a couple hrs when I thought I had a defective pump
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post #23 of 37
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So yeah I finally put everything back together get the block on fire it up and not only do the fans they sent me get super hot on the motor part and not spin (tried other fans on my mobo they work fine) but it seems like my pump is again not doing anything.....

I really don't know what is wrong. The first time the pump stopped working I just flipped the case over and a huge bubble came rushing through the lines and it started working again. Well the loop has not been open since then and afaik the pump is not turning on and no water is flowing because my temperatures are ridiculously high.

NEED HELP LOL
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why are you mad at them? i was pretty mad for a couple hrs when I thought I had a defective pump

Their support is useless I had to post on their FB to get support to only have my warranty voided by doing something they told me to do. They simply claim their products don't do that and that I must have done something to the product to make this happen. Now I have an $80 paperweight for a dual D5 reservoir.
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So yeah I finally put everything back together get the block on fire it up and not only do the fans they sent me get super hot on the motor part and not spin (tried other fans on my mobo they work fine) but it seems like my pump is again not doing anything.....

I really don't know what is wrong. The first time the pump stopped working I just flipped the case over and a huge bubble came rushing through the lines and it started working again. Well the loop has not been open since then and afaik the pump is not turning on and no water is flowing because my temperatures are ridiculously high.

NEED HELP LOL

Do you hear any humming from the pump or feel vibrations? How are your fluid levels? Since it's an integrated combo you shouldn't have a supply issue as long as the fluid levels on the res are fine. If your res is full and there is nothing then either the pump has stalled or the connection is shakey on the power cable (had that happen once and had to pull the connector off and adjust the pins).

Sadly those integrated reservoir combos from XSPC have a horrible history of pump failure or leaks.
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Despite the horrible history of failed pumps, XSPC customer support has been really good. If you send in a video of your failed pump, they will replace it free of charge.

I would try a different molex port on your PSU in case the one that is connected to your pump is faulty. Make sure that you're getting 12V and 5V from your Molex plug by using a multi-meter.
    
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post #26 of 37
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Despite the horrible history of failed pumps, XSPC customer support has been really good. If you send in a video of your failed pump, they will replace it free of charge.

I would try a different molex port on your PSU in case the one that is connected to your pump is faulty. Make sure that you're getting 12V and 5V from your Molex plug by using a multi-meter.


Yeah im gonna do that, all I know right now is the molex's are pushing out power but i'm gonna go see if it is 12v.

edit: multimeter says right on 12v with dc 20 setting.


I let it run over night without the mobo connected and there is definitely some air in the lines how do I get it out, just open up the loop and start over? I can't add any water to the res because the res/pump combo because it is still full.


Frozen cpu who I bought the kit from just said send in a pic of the serial sticker on it and they will replace it, but i'm really thinking I have "airlock" and I don't know how to fix it.. .really frustrated.

Logic got the better of me and I flipped it so the pump/res was at the lowest point and it filled with water and started (I swear I tried this yesterday with no luck). Now I have it just running sitting like that. What I don't understand is where is the air going to go, I can't see any air now but I assume it is in the radiator since that is the highest point the way I have it sitting (and normally I guess). If I flip it back normal will it just shut off again? so confused on how to actually get the air out
Edited by HardwareDecoder - 11/15/13 at 4:33am
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post #27 of 37
the air will end up in the rad
unbolt it and lower it below block/res.... flip everything over on its side to make it sit "flat" on the table or something, make the res the highest point (2-3') in the loop for a while... add distilled as the waterlevel drops... dont let the pump run dry!
you'll have to tilt/rock the radiator a bit to get most air out
you'll probably have to do this a few times till it is really full smile.gif

rad-dance biggrin.gif
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the air will end up in the rad
unbolt it and lower it below block/res.... flip everything over on its side to make it sit "flat" on the table or something, make the res the highest point (2-3') in the loop for a while... add distilled as the waterlevel drops... dont let the pump run dry!
you'll have to tilt/rock the radiator a bit to get most air out
you'll probably have to do this a few times till it is really full smile.gif

rad-dance biggrin.gif

Took your advice and unbolted the rad, let it sit on the floor and immediately some air came rushing out but the water level didn't lower at all.

It makes sense that air wants to rise so it should work it's way out of my loop after 12 hours or something? I guess i'll know if the water level in the res drops a bit.

Before I could see quite a bit of air in the in the tubes, don't see any now it must have all gone somewhere or is still stuck in the RAD for now tried shaking the rad a bit didn't see any more air come out. I guess it is possible the air already came out but didn't drop water level.

Idk this is all so new to me I'm basically clueless biggrin.gif
Edited by HardwareDecoder - 11/15/13 at 6:17am
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post #29 of 37
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First loop installed and leak testing for 24 hrs.

Only thing i'm not sure on is do I want the fans pulling air from the radiator or pushing it through ? Seems that it doesn't really matter either way but i'm probably wrong.

Martin recommends pull < 1500rpm and push > 1700 rpm

http://martinsliquidlab.petrastech.com/Radiator-Fan-Orientation-And-Shroud-Testing-Review.html
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Push Vs Pull - This depends on fan speed/power. The high speed fans at 2000RPM with a 38mm fan thickness provided the best performance in a push condition. The slow speed fans with 1350RPM with a 25mm fan thickness provided the best performance in a pull condition. I would estimate that performance line is likely to cross in the 1500-1700RPM range where they are equal. So.... slow speed = pull, high speed = push, medium speed = it doesn't really matter.
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post #30 of 37
I'm no expert, but I think your best bet for the air situation is to turn the case so your pump/res is the highest point in the loop (for me that was with the case on its side) and then let it run while gently shaking or tapping the case. That seemed to dislodge a lot of air bubbles for me, and they would then collect in the res. I also got some air out by turning the system upside down while it was running. Basically you just need ot give the water a chance to find all the voids in the loop - it'll displace the air and the air will then make it's way to the pump/res.
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