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I'm looking at putting together some rigs (nothing that needs to be super powerful, it's just record keeping, word processing, etc.) for a neighbor's business for his employees to use.

I've narrowed my CPU decision down to an APU, so I can take advantage of the integrated graphics (again, doesn't need to be able to game or encode Blue-Rays). With that said, I think the A8-5600K provides ample power to get the job done. I've read that the heatsink is best swapped out for something better.

Based on feedback I'd received from others, the A6 wasn't quite where folks expected them to be, and that the A8 was worth the extra money for satisfactory performance all around.

These are going to be going into Rosewill Line-M MicroATX cases, to reduce the space they take up within the employee's desk area.

Where I need some help is getting some feedback on the MicroATX motherboards that others may have used for MicroATX builds. It seems that a lot of the FM2 socket boards are having lots of issues with being DOA, or not working in some other fashion.

It seems even one of my favorites (Asus) has really tanked on their products and customer service/RMA services.

Let me know what you think!
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This would work.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1468221


Biostar has a pretty speedy RMA process(3 weeks) and the boards are rock solid.

I personally use the motherboard and it's a very nice motherboard.

The audio hardware/drivers are new and is kind of buggy at times though, for example a .swf can stop working if speakers are not plugged in. Not sure if that's important or not, just letting you know.

The stock heatsink will be fine for stock.
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This would work.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1468221


Biostar has a pretty speedy RMA process(3 weeks) and the boards are rock solid.

I personally use the motherboard and it's a very nice motherboard.

The audio hardware/drivers are new and is kind of buggy at times though, for example a .swf can stop working if speakers are not plugged in. Not sure if that's important or not, just letting you know.

The stock heatsink will be fine for stock.

Don't think audio will be too much of an issue (no one uses speakers, and they shouldn't be listening to anything anyway).

I've heard the stock fan for the 5600K is pretty loud. I know for one I don't like loud CPU fans, so if I can extend that luxury to others it would be nice. At the same time, the hustle and bustle of the office may drown it out. I'll just keep it as a consideration thumb.gif
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cheaper than this isnt possible

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8584882&Sku=B69-00003

Well damn!! Too bad that MSI board has been getting some bad feedback!

That's an awesome find though.
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The stock CPU fans don't make much noise unless the CPU is under a lot of load or the case ventilation isn't adequate. It doesn't sound like much will be done to cause high CPU use, so you should be fine using the stock coolers.
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RYZEN
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OFFICE PC
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20TB_HOMENAS
(9 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 1700X ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Professional Gaming XFX 390x Corsair Vengeance LPX 64GB DDR4 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
A bunch of swappable SSDs LG BD-ROM Thermaltake CL-P039-AL12BL-A Contac Silent Windows 7 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Generic Korean 32" 4K Generic mechanical rainbow LED lit SeaSonic G Series 550-Watt AZZA Helios 910 CSAZ-910 
MouseAudio
Logitech G500 T1 24BIT Tube USB DAC 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon II X2 255 ASRock 970DE3/U3S3 Radeon X300 Kingston KHX1600C9D3/4GX 
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8x Samsung HD204UI 7x Seagate ST2000DM001 Transcend TS16GSSD25-S 2x WD WD40EZRX 
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cheaper than this isnt possible

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8584882&Sku=B69-00003

It's cheap for a reason, I'm not seeing much quality there. I wouldn't use that personally and I wouldn't build it for someone else.

VaiFanatic,

The Ranger-M is on sale for $25 shipped. Not a bad looking case, has the same problem as the line-M in that it has an LED fan (unprofessional looking), so that may need to be swapped out; but for $25 I think you can't beat that case price.
Also check out the Fractal core 1000 as that is a nice professional looking simple case that is inexpensive.

The A4 and A6 are not competitive options IMO. There are Intel Pentiums with true dual core architectures at that price range that would be better performers in the ultra budget class. The A8 and A10 are where the APU chips have the ability to make a claim to useful value, competing with the higher binned Pentiums and i3 chips. Problem with a "dual core" APU is that, there is no capacity to scale beyond a single thread without taking a scaling hit related to the shared resource design. They also seem to suffer from a lack of caching. The $70 G3220 performs on average about 50% faster than any of the single module ("dual core") APU's and is known for using less power under full load than it's TDP rating.

Newegg has a number of CPU/RAM and CPU/Motherboard combos for the Pentium, A8, and A10 chips.

Examples..

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1465525
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1469179
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1488457
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1472673

I'd be very tempted by that G3220 if I were in the market to build a machine right now.
     
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FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
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Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
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Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
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FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
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Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-8350 990X EVO R2.0 Sparkle GTX460 768MB ballistix tactical 2 x 8GB 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Toshiiba THNSNH 256GB Enterprise RE3 1TB Asus BD combo drive Artic A30 
OSMonitorMonitorMonitor
Manjaro Linux Samsung 21.5" LCD E2009WFP E2009WFP 
PowerCase
Seasonic G 550W Modular Fractal Design Core 3500 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
FX-6300, 4.7 GHZ@1.43V GA-970A-UD3P GTX 460 768MB Mixed DIMMs. 2x4GB + 2x8GB @ 1600-8-8-8 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveHard Drive
Toshiba THNSNH 19nm 256GB 1TB Spinpoint F3 WD RE3 1TB WD RE3 1TB 
Optical DriveCoolingOSOS
yes CM Seidon 120V SolydK OpenSuse 13.1 
OSOSMonitorMonitor
Linux Mint 9-32 bit // Linux Mint 17-64 bit  Manjaro Xfce Samsung 21.5" HannsG 21.5" sideways! 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Sticky ATNG Rosewill Green 630W NZXT Gamma Basic Microsoft corded 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
A10-6800k 4.8GHZ @ 1.375V, 1.2GHZ iGPU Gigabyte GA-F2A85XN-WIFI HD8670D Ripjaws 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Seagate ST1000DM003 Asus BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Zalman CNPS5X Linux Mint 15 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG IPS224V-PN Logitec K360 FSP 400W Aurum S 80+ gold Prodigy 
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