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I would not recommend crossfire ever. I sold my crossfire 7950s and upgraded to a 780. It is so much better, though I have not tried SLI. But really, I'd rather just get a 780 TI and overclock it for that price.
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I would not recommend crossfire ever. I sold my crossfire 7950s and upgraded to a 780. It is so much better, though I have not tried SLI. But really, I'd rather just get a 780 TI and overclock it for that price.


Agreed, the only time I'd consider SLI/Crossfire is when your hardware is generations from the latest, and you can get another identical GPU for cheap. My buddy has a 2500k paired with a 460 1gb, when he wants to upgrade the cheapest and best route is to get another 460 for next to nothing.

Other than that..I wouldn't. These days drivers are released after a major game so that GPUs play better with the latest game. However if you're wanting to play some older stuff you might encounter problems. Plus the headache should something arise...single GPU is always better unless you're so filthy rich you can. I know there are plenty of people who are on SLI/Crossfire who have never had a problem but for people like me...I just want to use my computer. I hate it when something is wrong and I gotta spend hours fixing it.
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Agreed, the only time I'd consider SLI/Crossfire is when your hardware is generations from the latest, and you can get another identical GPU for cheap. My buddy has a 2500k paired with a 460 1gb, when he wants to upgrade the cheapest and best route is to get another 460 for next to nothing.

Other than that..I wouldn't. These days drivers are released after a major game so that GPUs play better with the latest game. However if you're wanting to play some older stuff you might encounter problems. Plus the headache should something arise...single GPU is always better unless you're so filthy rich you can. I know there are plenty of people who are on SLI/Crossfire who have never had a problem but for people like me...I just want to use my computer. I hate it when something is wrong and I gotta spend hours fixing it.
I will be starting off with one GPU card, but Ive always had good luck with SLI configs.........at least on my laptops.


On the search for a good case, Ill starting to lean towards COoler Masters LAN Box. The HAF X EVO. Cheap price, plenty of room. Removable mother board. SSD Hot swap ports, the ability to put 2-3 radiators inside.
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Looked at that board too, problem with the Gryphon is again built in sound is less than spectacular. Im a SQ buff. I'll be using a pair of Ultrasone PRO series headphones on this rig.

The only other board I was seriously contemplating was the Asus Maximus VI GENE.

But the ASROCK I think is just a tad better, and better for my needs, and at significantly less money too, being 30-40 bucks less: http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z87M%20OC%20Formula/index.us.asp

The best bord(s) in terms of audio are supposed to be the ASUS ROG family like the MAXIMUS VI GENE you mentioned as there sound chip(s) are RF shielded, and comes with a great software package.

I have been using ROG boards in by builds for the last number of years and to me there is little/no difference in sound (to me) then when using a separate sound card, I gave up using sound cards when I got my first ROG board.

I would go for the Asus Maximus VI GENE if I were you...plus I think it also just looks better and you can do a red/back theme easier then a yellow/black if your going for looks as well.
Edited by Sharazzi - 11/12/13 at 11:40am
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The best bord(s) in terms of audio are supposed to be the ASUS ROG family like the MAXIMUS VI GENE you mentioned as there sound chip(s) are RF shielded, and comes with a great software package.

I have been using ROG boards in by builds for the last number of years and to me there is little/no difference in sound (to me) then when using a separate sound card, I gave up using sound cards when I got my first ROG board.

I would go for the Asus Maximus VI GENE if I were you...plus I think it also just looks better and you can do a red/back theme easier then a yellow/black if your going for looks as well.

Yep, I know the ROG boards have good audio, but the components used and overall design on the ASROCK OC formula mb is just a bit better. Both feature fine software, both are shielded. But the ASROCK board features 2 direct coupled amp chips with no caps in the path. The Asus design is very similar, but there are caps inline. Both have identical paper "specs" in terms of SNR at 115db. but the ASROCK boards in general tend to have much lower noise floors real world and in testing. This to me is key.

IMO the Maximus VI Gene is way over priced compared to the OC Formula board and just doesn't suit my needs as well overall. Even if the Asus was the same price at 45-50 bucks less, Id still take the OC Formula.
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Yep, I know the ROG boards have good audio, but the components used and overall design on the ASROCK OC formula mb is just a bit better. Both feature fine software, both are shielded. But the ASROCK board features 2 direct coupled amp chips with no caps in the path. The Asus design is very similar, but there are caps inline. Both have identical paper "specs" in terms of SNR at 115db. but the ASROCK boards in general tend to have much lower noise floors real world and in testing. This to me is key.

IMO the Maximus VI Gene is way over priced compared to the OC Formula board and just doesn't suit my needs as well overall. Even if the Asus was the same price at 45-50 bucks less, Id still take the OC Formula.

Your the one building the rig...so its what ever works for you that is the important thing biggrin.gif

On another note ASROCK really must have improved because one time (a few years back) I recall most enthusiast would not go near there boards because they were complete garbage.
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Your the one building the rig...so its what ever works for you that is the important thing biggrin.gif

On another note ASROCK really must have improved because one time (a few years back) I recall most enthusiast would not go near there boards because they were complete garbage.

Ive always been an Asus fan, and ASROCK to me is new, but their boards spec out a touch better, and the reviews in general back that up lately it seems. Im sure I wouldn't go wrong either way, Asus and ASROCK were the only 2 brands I was seriously considering. The 5 year warranty though, some specific features and the price of the ASROCK puts em over the top for me.

If I was going to be doing a full atx build I would be doing the ASROCK z87 Extreme9/AC.........that is just a sick over the top board.


Regardless, so far, looks like Im going to go with

A. MB: ASROCK z87m OC formula mATX ($165)
B. CPU: i7 4770k ($270)
C. 8 gigs of Crucial Ballistix sport 2x4gig ($59.00)
D. Cooler Master v1000 PSU (I decided to stick with the 1000 watt unit)
E. Samsung 840 Pro or EVO SSD's(Undecided on gig size, that will be determined on price when I do buy)
F. Seagate Momentus hybrid HD(or whatever they currently have out that uses the NAND technology)
G. Intel 7260 half mini pci express wifi chip


Still undecided on Micro Atx case.........Looking at still the Cooler Master XB EVO, Obsidian 350D or 650D, Possibly the Case Labs S5 Mercury still..........or Fractal's ARC midi or midi R2...............I really want the Case Labs products........$300 bucks though...........but it fits all my needs perfectly.

And still undecided on the video cards.........not sure if Im going to do a pair of 290's, or a single 290x or GTX 780 to start off...........
Edited by ZippyPinhead - 11/12/13 at 3:10pm
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Ive always been an Asus fan, and ASROCK to me is new, but their boards spec out a touch better, and the reviews in general back that up lately it seems. Im sure I wouldn't go wrong either way, Asus and ASROCK were the only 2 brands I was seriously considering. The 5 year warranty though, some specific features and the price of the ASROCK puts em over the top for me.

If I was going to be doing a full atx build I would be doing the ASROCK z87 Extreme9/AC.........that is just a sick over the top board.


Regardless, so far, looks like Im going to go with

A. MB: ASROCK z87m OC formula mATX ($165)
B. CPU: i7 4770k ($270)
C. 8 gigs of Crucial Ballistix sport 2x4gig ($59.00)
D. Cooler Master v1000 PSU (I decided to stick with the 1000 watt unit)


Still undecided on Micro Atx case.........Looking at still the Cooler Master XB EVO, Obsidian 350D or 650D, Possibly the Case Labs S5 Mercury still..........or Fractal's ARC midi or midi R2...............I really want the Case Labs products........$300 bucks though...........but it fits all my needs perfectly.

Go for what you WANT otherwise you will be a little upset later down the road when you don't have your perfect build

Good luck! thumb.gif
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