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my D arives tommorow and I can't wait to use it, I couldn't afford core 2 but plan to goto the e6400 when intel drops there prices as I hear they will soon. anyways for the price there is not a cheaper dual core out there, and all though not terribly fast I know it will be much better then my xp1700 and my laptop which has a 1.5ghz celeron M. so if money is a priority I say go with the D and wait till intel lowers the core 2 prices.
    
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They both are crazy overclockers, 805 can be OCed up to 4GHz and E6300 up to 3GHz, anyway E6300 will smoke 805 in any way.
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my D arives tommorow and I can't wait to use it, I couldn't afford core 2 but plan to goto the e6400 when intel drops there prices as I hear they will soon. anyways for the price there is not a cheaper dual core out there, and all though not terribly fast I know it will be much better then my xp1700 and my laptop which has a 1.5ghz celeron M. so if money is a priority I say go with the D and wait till intel lowers the core 2 prices.
good choice, let me know how it does in gaming at stock speeds etc...
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Yeah, it's a great CPU for the price. If you want, I can send you a table I have with what overclocking results I got.
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Made this guy at work return his PD805 from newegg and buy a e6400, I don't feel like the PD805 can do much but normal work, unless overclocked maybe some gaming.
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Made this guy at work return his PD805 from newegg and buy a e6400, I don't feel like the PD805 can do much but normal work, unless overclocked maybe some gaming.
for normal work get a celeron and save the money, thats what tey r made for .
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Eh. Core-based Celerons shouldn't be so bad whenever they ome out but the PD 805 isn't a bad choice either. It's just really fun to OC in my opinion.
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This relative has been a system builder and network engineer for 25 years. He knows what he's talking about, especially by the volume of computers he fixes and maintains daily. And no, he's not a Best Buy Geek Squad joke, but a trained mechanical and electrical engineer, who began in the business in the 80s.

And I've been building computers since 1983. We luv Intel procs, but even Intel makes flops now and then, and the Pentium D is crap performance wise. Nothing OC'ing can do to compensate for the longer cache pipeline (which is the true key to processor performance, not just clock speeds).
I am well aware of the fallacy of clock speed equals performance. And I am glad to hear you and your relative have such a long history....however, it is fact that I attach weight to, not credentials, and there are no facts to support the opinion that the Pentium D CPUs are "crap".

Everyone is welcome to their opinion, but to claim that you are better off buying a Northwood than a Presler is just un-supportable.

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If folks just want to OC for the hell of it, then a Smithfield/Pressler would do. But if you're building a rig on a performance basis (not bragging rights), stay away from the Smithfield/Pressler even if the price is very tempting. Save it for the Dual Core.
Um, I am guessing you meant quad-core, since Presler's and Smithfield's are dual-cores.......another fact that allows them to be better than a Northwood (or a Prescott). And that is more bad advice, since the quad-cores will not be competing in the same price range, not even close. Quad-core's are not marketed for the mainstream, even in the enthusiast market. They are marketed for people who NEED that kind fo horsepower and who will pay for it.


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Yep. I don't need to waste money on fads. Which is why I'm skipping the duals and saving for a quad (which will be the cooling point in architecture). The duals are like the P3s, they lasted just a short time. The quads will be like the P4, with a longer service life (well, until the modular motherboard systems come out).
Fads? Again, your opinion........

Until more software is coded to use quad-cores, and until they come under $500 each, they are not going to be as common as you claim. The dual core Core line will be the workhorse of the Intel line for some time, taking the place of the Pentiums, with the Core-Lite's taking the place of the old Celerons. The quad cores will remain the high end, optional, CPU.

Even then, to call a CPU crap because it is being replaced by newer tech is incorrect and a fallacy of it's own. By that statement, the Quad-cores are crap as they will be replaced by Octo-cores shortly afterwards.
post #30 of 39
I like my little 805. I have it overclocked to a nice 3.2Ghz dead stable according to Prime95 (I'll be taking screenshots as proof soon) without increasing the voltage core.

There are people who say they can get it up to 4Ghz without changing the voltage core which I'm sceptical of but then again my power suppy and ram are sorely lacking so I really can't get it above 3.3Ghz.

As far as the cost to performance ratio I'd go with the 805 if you aren't a gamer...but then again I'm jealous of the C2D's.

Maybe I should grab a 915 for $160 since I do more file conversion than gaming.
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