Originally Posted by tompsonn
If this did happen, and Windows became a minority, guess what the viruses will target? Yes that's right. Insert XXX operating system here. And then all of a sudden its people like you saying the same thing - "don't use XXX anymore". Hey look, we're back where we started!
These people are intelligent. If you think *insert alternate OS here* is any more "secure" than Windows against these people - think again.
I understand the crux of your argument and we are talking the most sophisticated 'hackers' here. But given the thread discussion somewhat revolves around windows and you mention it, I do think Linux is more
secure. In fact it is more secure and the code base is clear for people to review and look over for any back doors and when there found they are patched. There are rights and permissions you don't get with Linux without root and stuff your normal user doesn't have access to at all, windows by comparison is a lot worse.
Also you think that there is just Linux ? There are many other obscure locked down operating systems out there too that you and most probably 99.9% of people on this site have never heard of, so you would need the 3 people who made the OS to be the very same 3 people who hack the OS...
.. So why cant the three people who made the custom OS make one for a multi billion dollar space ship or nuclear plant that just controls the hardware interfaces? Because the I.T dept and management teams are behind the curve with their industrial software controls and they have a lack of deep computing theory & knowledge as such have been slow to adopt advanced I.T methodologies and alternative platforms. FYI industrial hardware providers in manufacturing and healthcare in many cases is are miles out of step with the physical hardware the company produces. Most engineers cant even get their own kit connected to a network using windows and its certainly lax in security in so many trivial ways.
So back to windows. there are currently 60,000 known viruses for windows and roughly 40 for linux but the number is expected to be lower. Of those 40 most require some Derpy root access to be given by the user. Extrapolating further.. if you ran a custom version of linux totally stripped for just the industrial controls then you would probably rule out all of them. Extrapolating EVEN further if you ran a custom OS like Plan9, Be OS, etc..
But in the context of stuxnet I hear you saying "but this is hyper clever and super sneaky" well.. Stuxnet is avoidable otherwise hackers would of already found the doors and keys, so how did this malware manage to get a foot in the door ???
think of the high stake politics and power plays involved here then you have your answer.Edited by Pip Boy - 11/13/13 at 5:50am