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CPU Temps with the x264 HD BENCHMARK:

A) Remember this pic post water loop installation (page 11 post #105)?



Pre delidded at 4.5GHz and looser RAM timings we had 86C-84C-81C-76C.

Post delidding at 4.5GHz and looser RAM timings we had 71C-74C-79C-72C.

Post water loop at 4.5GHz and tighter RAM timings we had 63C-66C-70C-61C.

B) Now with v.2.0.

x264 HD BENCHMARK 5.0 RESULTS

Please do NOT compare it with older versions of the benchmark!
Please copy/paste everything below the line to to report your data
to http://forums.techarp.com/reviews-articles/26957-x264-hd-benchmark-5-0-a.html

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Results for x264.exe r2200
x264 Benchmark: 64-bit
==========================

Pass 1
encoded 11812 frames, 91.53 fps, 7754.20 kb/s

Pass 2
encoded 11812 frames, 19.74 fps, 8002.20 kb/s


System Details
Name Intel Processor
Codename Haswell
Specification Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770K CPU @ 3.50GHz
Specification PC3-18300
Specification PC3-16000
Specification PC3-18300
Specification PC3-16000
Core Stepping
Technology 22 nm
Stock frequency 3500 MHz
Core Speed 800.0 MHz

Northbridge Intel ID0C00 rev. 06
Southbridge Intel ID8C44 rev. 04

Command Rate 2T
Command Rate 2T
Command Rate 2T
Command Rate 2T
Memory Type
Memory Size 16384 MBytes

Windows Version Microsoft Windows 7 (6.1) 64-bit Service Pack 1 (Build 7601)

Number of processors 1
Number of threads 8
Number of threads 8 (max 16)
L2 cache 4 x 256 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64-byte line size
Instructions sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, EM64T, VT-x, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA
Package (platform ID) Socket 1150 LGA (0x1)

Temperature 0 28°C (82°F) [0xBC2] (TZ00)
Temperature 1 30°C (85°F) [0xBD6] (TZ01)

Part way through (cigar break).

Completed.


Well, not one Core hit 70C and on average there was between 2-3C improvement.
Edited by Gunderman456 - 4/16/14 at 5:16pm
 
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GPU Temps with MetroLL:

A) Remember these pics post water loop installation (page 15 post #146)?

MetroLL Core Clock 1150MHZ & Memory 1395MHz

MetroLL Desktop


B) Now with v.2.0.

MetroLL Core Clock 1170MHZ & Memory 1395MHz

MetroLL Desktop


Everyone together - just incredible!

CPU:

Temps between v.1.0 and v.0.2 are considerable from 70s and one 80C down to 57-62C.

GPUs:

Temps between v.1.0 and v.0.2 go from 66C to 49C.

VRMs:

VRM1s dropped from 91-93C to 44-46C and VRM2s dropped from 61-62C to 37-39C.

I'm just elated folks!!! I feel I can now definitely demand more from this new build version!
 
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Mind Blown with v.2.0:

Methodology;

Current tests (part B) were conducted at the same overclocks as previous testing (Part A), i.e.; CPU @ 4.5GHz, RAM @ 2400MHz - 10 - 10 - 12 - 28 - T1 - 1.65v and GPU @ Core 1170MHz & Memory 1395MHz.

Room temp according to the furnace reading (on 1st floor) indicate 19C and when I turned on the computer, the NZXT temp sensors also reflected 19C.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
A) Remember these pics (page 9 post #85) after I gave the computer every opportunity and tweak post water cooling installation?







B) Well version 2.0 of the Hawaiian Heat Wave does not disappoint!!!

CPU Idle (No GPU Overclock yet)

GPU Idle (No GPU Overclock yet)

VRMs at Idle (No GPU Overclock yet)

The whole on Idle with GPU Overclocked

Heaven Bench

Heaven Run at Load

Heaven Run at Load and Max VRM Temps!!!

CPU:

I ran the Heaven Benchmark and you can see that the CPU benefited greatly from the addition of the 360mm radiator and the intake fans in push/pull. CPU temps went from the 50s and 60s to 40s and 50s! Highest temp went from 65C to 57C.

GPU:

This finding also goes for the GPUs where the temps dropped from 55C to 47C.

VRMs:

Best of all, once the correct size and better Fujipoly thermal pads were applied, VRM1s dropped from 79C to 37-38C and VRM2s dropped from 49C to 33-35C.

The water temp peeked at 29.9C. Within the idealistic delta!

Very nice! That's still ~11c water delta though, isn't it? I guess it's a lot of power when you're dealing with two oc'd 290's and a 4770k - you could hit like 800w reasonably

Btw, there's better x264 test now for stability/temp testing - http://www.overclock.net/t/1411077/haswell-overclocking-guide-with-statistics/10980_30#post_21941059

Remind me again your CPU OC settings?
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Thanks Cyro999, real happy with the temp differences!

Will start using the new x264!

01. Ai Overclock Tuner => XMP
02. CPU Core Ratio => 45
03. Min. CPU Cache Ratio => 35
04. Max. CPU Cache Ratio => 35
05. CPU Core Voltage => 1.32v
06. DRAM Frequency => 2400MHz
07. Timings => 10 -10 -12 - 28 -T1 - 1.65v
08. Eventual CPU Input Voltage => 1.8v

If the value is not there, then it's on Auto.

@4.6GHz I needed to play with more values then these.

I will be revisiting all overclocks.
Edited by Gunderman456 - 4/16/14 at 6:36pm
 
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you made the external rad look pretty. great job! i'm off to Red's build next.
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you made the external rad look pretty. great job! i'm off to Red's build next.

My wife was also like, "external rad will look fugly", but I was determined to bring temps down and the same day reached for my drill and went at it.tongue.gif

Like you, I think it was worth it and I still managed to make it look respectable!
 
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Thanks Cyro999, real happy with the temp differences!

Will start using the new x264!

01. Ai Overclock Tuner => XMP
02. CPU Core Ratio => 45
03. Min. CPU Cache Ratio => 35
04. Max. CPU Cache Ratio => 35
05. CPU Core Voltage => 1.32v
06. DRAM Frequency => 2400MHz
07. Timings => 10 -10 -12 - 28 -T1 - 1.65v
08. Eventual CPU Input Voltage => 1.8v

If the value is not there, then it's on Auto.

@4.6GHz I needed to play with more values then these.

I will be revisiting all overclocks.

Maybe worth 46, maybe not. Can probably get it, but if that 1.32v is bios voltage, you probably have 1.34v load, and require like 1.4 for 4.6, which is about where a lot of people start thinking about drawing the line
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My wife was also like, "external rad will look fugly"

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Oh, many of your CPU settings were in the screenshot. I didn't think to look, doh biggrin.gif

You gotta use cpu-z 1.64.0 for right sensor. For most people, cpu-z 1.64.0 and hwinfo work (for vcore sensor, not VID) - I prefer hwinfo to hwmonitor too anyway
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BF4 as a Current Overclock Bencher/Stability Test:

BF4 was the last button that spurred v.2.0. The cards and inadequate cooling in general was creating so much heat that at around 30C (internal case temp) the computer would crash. Most times though temps would peak at 34C, however anything in the 30C range and you knew it was going to crash.

A) Remember this pic post water loop installation while testing with BF4 (page 21 post #206)?

GPUs at Stock Clocks


Things appeared stable at stock GPU clocks, but alas it was not which spurred the teardown and version 2.0.

B) Now with v.2.0 after 1 hour and a half of BF4 play.

GPUs at current clocks of Core 1170MHz and 1395MHz Memory


CPU:

Temps stayed on average 11C cooler even though the cards were overclocked.

GPUs:

GPUs while not in v.1.0 pic would be in the 60s where now they are between 50-51C, so another 10C easy reduction here while overclocked.

VRMs:

VRM1s dropped over 25C, while VRM2s dropped over 10C again all while overclocked.

Game/Computer never even hick-upped once where before it was a guarantee when overclocked. High temps and previous VRM issues did not help and were the cause of the computer crashes and now it is great to enjoy long sessions in BF4 without loosing out on all the stats.

Ambient was once more 19C at start, but the room heated up fast with the TV being on, lights, two human bodies and computer being on in the same room. Not sure what it's now with all that going on but it's not 19C. Even though, peak water temp was 34C, however it did not stay there and mostly hovered around 33.5C.

Oh, case temp never went over 32C, which again suggests that not as much heat is being pumped into the case as before.

Again, can I say that I'm just elated!!!
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Can you record an average of GPU load? What about if you increase your resolution scale and record it again? (so say now it's on 100%, try 142%, which is equivalent to doubled resolution i think, 1.42x on X and Y axis, 100*1.42^2 = approximately 200) - or ~1.23x resolution scale, which is about halfway between those

You seem quite CPU bound, with so low GPU load. You can probably make a significant increase in graphical quality/resolution without performance as a whole being negatively affected, so basically lowering FPS ceiling while keeping the same floor

I don't really know BF4 that well though, but it's worth a shot
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AB was even more atrocious with GPU usage with previous AB versions and past AMD drivers. I'm not on latest AMD driver either. I would have tended to agree about the CPU, if it wasn't for incremental improvements with GPU load with newer AB versions and AMD drivers.

I think to test to see if I'm CPU bound, it would be better to see if CPU is running at 100% load rather then log fluctuation in GPU load.

Any suggestion in software to use to test CPU load would be appreciated.

Edit:

I looked back and you can see the improvement in GPU usage between AB 17 and 18 for instance (page 13 post #121). Additionally, GPU usage is more pronounced in BF4 in comparison say to Borderlands 2, Heaven, Valley and even MetroLL, probably since I die a lot, take some time to switch ordinance, map changes etc... so you are not playing all the time which will cause plenty of pitches in GPU usage.
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