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Oh okay. So that would put it in the way off the bottom 120mm fan mount? Because I have a 120mm rad mounted there. I suppose I could just drill new holes. I only need about 6mm more to fit a rad up front.
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You can definitely put a thin rad and push fan and still fit the pump down there like I did!

If my power supply was a little smaller, I could have went with push/pull. I mean I can still go push/pull, but I'd have to mount the pull fans outside the case.
 
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How much space do you have between the HDD cages and your fan now? Sorry for all the questions. But I'm trying to figure out what the thickest radiator I can fit in that space would be.
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At the back, the curl of the cage is about 2mm away from the fan casing. At the front, the curl is past the fan casing and there is more room naturally.
 
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Okay, I was eyeballing it and it did look like the curl of the cage would get in the way at the back. Hmm, okay, looks like I'll just stick with a thin rad.

I appreciate your help, great results on your build! Mine is still a work in progress.
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As a side bar, finally newegg relented and they are sending me a BF4 coupon and I will get to keep the Orcs must Die coupon they sent me in error.

I have done some testing where I disabled Crossfire and had only one card running while benching, and instead of the CPU being in the high 50s to mid 60C, it was in the 40s to mid 50C. Card and VRMs also stayed cooler; VRMs1&2 remained in the 40s and low 50s. As 47 Knucklehead pointed out earlier in this thread and I have come to find out, that the two Hawaiian cards paint homage to the volcanoes of Hawaii rather than its beaches. They do generate a lot of heat which affects that whole loop. I've already outlined the sort of modifications that I will do in the future. Not because the temps are extreme, because they are not, but because tinkering and making things better is what we do.

Now, with this sort of set-up and modifications what kind of temperatures can we expect in gaming? A good question, since we go through all this to play games after all.

Next, I did promise to do some benching with BF4, so that will be coming up complete with temps for BF4 and MetroLL play.
 
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Wow, awesome work on this well documented log. You may want to consider editing the first post to include a summary though, reading 4 pages of benchmarks is time consuming. biggrin.gif

I am going to be working a very similar build in about a week when my H20 components arrive. I have an Midi R2 with a 3770k and SLi GTX Titans. I am also going with dual RADs, a XSPC AX240 in the roof, and an Alphacool UT60 280 in the front. Both will have XSPC fans in push config. I have a pair of Corsair AF140s I could add to the 280 front rad, but I want to fit my drive cage in just like you did, so I don't think they will fit.

Here is my plan. Only change I am making is to switch the Photon Res/Rump from an interior to a XSPC D5 5.25' dual bay model, I think that will work better for me. As long as I can keep the interior bottom drive cage, I will still have plenty of HDD space.



Many people think dual 240/280mm rads won't be enough for OC'd CPU and Xfire/SLi GPUs, I guess you and I will try and prove that wrong. If not we can add 120/140 rads to the rear exhaust fan port.

How are you GPU temps during gaming now? If I remember correctly, you are hitting 60C on the GPUs, is that still the case?

Congrats on your build and thanks for posting such detailed documentation.
 
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Looks darn good. Not sure if you are aware, but you may get a few degrees if you take those 90's off the cpu block. Should allow better flow
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Yes, I've heard that this is also starting to change and BF4 is suppose to be at the forefront. I will see for myself once newegg decides to ship me BF4. I will post my finding here for the community, no problem. thumb.gif

Sorry; i didn't read whole thread, just some start a while ago and now a bit more; I wanted to say that bf4 isn't the only game that likes memory! tongue.gif

From what i've seen of sc2 for example it scales quite hard on memory. Enough to allow somebody with a 4.5ghz CPU to beat somebody @4.7ghz CPU benchmarking, maybe 4.8 in extreme cases (my friend belial88 got 2x4gb g.skill blue 2400c11 1.65v rated kit for ~$55 on newegg like.. 4 months ago? and clocked it to ~2800c12 24/7 with ~1.75v)

My other suggestion was that you could disable HT and see how CPU clocks. With delid this isn't really neccesary, and you probably don't want to add another multiplier due to voltage and degradation concern (+1 multi would be entering maybe a little dodgy territory, +2 would be very questionable), but no-delid, on air, it allows me to run ~1.36v at similar temps to my ~1.25v HT profile, which lets me clock to 4.7 instead of 4.5.

Every CPU bound game that i play likes +200mhz with HT off; so it's useful
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Wow, awesome work on this well documented log. You may want to consider editing the first post to include a summary though, reading 4 pages of benchmarks is time consuming. biggrin.gif

I am going to be working a very similar build in about a week when my H20 components arrive. I have an Midi R2 with a 3770k and SLi GTX Titans. I am also going with dual RADs, a XSPC AX240 in the roof, and an Alphacool UT60 280 in the front. Both will have XSPC fans in push config. I have a pair of Corsair AF140s I could add to the 280 front rad, but I want to fit my drive cage in just like you did, so I don't think they will fit.

Here is my plan. Only change I am making is to switch the Photon Res/Rump from an interior to a XSPC D5 5.25' dual bay model, I think that will work better for me. As long as I can keep the interior bottom drive cage, I will still have plenty of HDD space.



Many people think dual 240/280mm rads won't be enough for OC'd CPU and Xfire/SLi GPUs, I guess you and I will try and prove that wrong. If not we can add 120/140 rads to the rear exhaust fan port.

How are you GPU temps during gaming now? If I remember correctly, you are hitting 60C on the GPUs, is that still the case?

Congrats on your build and thanks for posting such detailed documentation.

Your build looks good. Actually the top fans pulling in will probably shave you a couple of degrees off. I personally did not go with that for aesthetic reasons, since I wanted to have the fans glowing inside my case so I kept them on the inside pushing out.

A bay res/pump combo will save you tons of space from being occupies at the button of the case and yes that will allow you to have a thicker rad and depending on the size of the PSU maybe even in push/pull. I would recommend adding a 3rd fan up top also pushing cool air inside the case.

Yes, the cards after applying CLU to them and with this water cooling set-up, stay way cooler. VRM2s are also way cooler, but depending on how lucky you are and if by design your VRM1s are closer and make more contact with the water block, you may have cooler temps on the VRM1s. I had hotter temps on VRM1s and better temps on VRM2s. Luck will dictate a bit here even if you do everything right.

I've decided to stress test the CPU on 4.5 and 4.6GHz overclocks with the tight RAM timings I achieved previous to implementing the liquid cooling loop. I wanted to know what the difference would be with the current water loop set-up. Curiosity was killing me.

After that, I will concentrate on benching the GPUs with some games to see what temps I get and if I can still overclock more there as well.
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Cigar ATX PC
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Intel i7 4770k @ 4.5GHz Asus Maximus VI Gene Gigabyte R9 290 @ 1160MHz/1350MHz Gigabyte R9 290 @ 1160MHz/1350MHz 
RAMHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
G.Skill Trident X 2X8GB DDR3 2400MHz Samsung 840 PRO 256GB  Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 3TB SATA III 6Gb/s 64... Pioneer Blu-ray Burner 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
Liquid Single Loop Triple Radiators Win 7 SP1 Professional x64bit  Samsung SynchMaster 24" Widescreen 1200p TFT-LC... Logitech G15 
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
EVGA SuperNOVA G2 1300w 80+ Gold Fully Modular  Fractal Design Arc Midi R2 Microsoft Sidewinder X5 Allsop Redmond Mouse Pad 
Audio
Cambridge Soundworks 5.1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Core i5-3570K @ 4.6GHz ASRock Z77E-ITX mITX  Sapphire HD 7990 @ 1090MHz/1600MHz G.SKILL Ripjaws 2X4GB DDR3-1600 @ 1866MHz 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Crucial SSD 128GB mSATA SATA III 6GB  Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA II 32MB 7200RPM LG DVD R/W SATA with LightScribe Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H100 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Win 7 Professional x64bit Samsung 52" 1080p 60Hz LCD Logitech Wireless K330 Corsair AX850 Gold Fully Modular 
CaseMouseMouse PadAudio
BitFenix Prodigy Mini-ATX Black  Logitech Wireless M215 Corsair Vengeance MM200 Yamaha RX-V681 & PSB/Polk Audio 5.1 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Athlon II X4 640 ASRock N68C-GS NVIDIA 6600GT G. Skill Ripjaws DDR3 1600MHz 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
WD Caviar Blue 500GB 16MB Cache 7200RPM LG Optical Drive Thermaltake Max Orb Windows 7 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Viewsonic 19” Flatscreen CRT Gigabyte GK-K6800 103  Thermaltake TR2 600W Cigar Boxes 
MouseMouse Pad
Zalman ZM-M300 Corsair Vengeance MM200 
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