Originally Posted by -SE7EN-
as far as team red having low fps.. well you can't say this is surprising. amd seems to have had pretty poor driver support over the past few years
and people usually go in knowing this... but most of that seems to be in the past as far as this game is concerned; just dont blame this game when the issue is in a good number of other games too.
Oh please don't start that crap. It's as baseless as his "top of the line i7" comment.
Problem is, as always for AMD in this scenario, the game runs DX9 with a low thread count. AMD's single-thread simply can't keep up. That's it. Even a single 7970 can play the game in tri-1080 Eyefinity no problem, there's nothing wrong GPU-side.
Originally Posted by Papadope
CPU Performance with Lowest Settings
Originally Posted by -SE7EN-
this is simply incorrect. I have played since launch with a 2600k and a single 560ti, and i don't drop below 45 in HUGE fights, even on some the patches that made the game a lil slow. i run @1080p with highest settings, AO/MB off, and usually keep 90+fps, exception of huge battles and biolabs, which are still more than playable. there have been some other issues, but the framerate for team green n blue has always been pretty darn good.
also, i see you are saying 'top of the line i7' but your sig shows a phenom. are you speaking from actual experience (where you would have probably said the model instead of a vague term) or did you have trouble on your older equipment, and see a different person with better hardware also having trouble, that may or may not have been due to his hardware, and assume the game was running poorly for everyone? because it isn't. I have a good cpu and a mediocre gpu and it runs like a champ.
as far as team red having low fps.. well you can't say this is surprising. amd seems to have had pretty poor driver support over the past few years and people usually go in knowing this... but most of that seems to be in the past as far as this game is concerned; just dont blame this game when the issue is in a good number of other games too.
The i7-2600k is a insanely fast cpu, most people who will play a free to play game will not have top of the line hardware. And most people with top of the line hardware are not going to want to run the game on low. Obviously it is not optimized, there is no reason to defend lazy developers. They have been claiming for years they couldn't make games more threaded and now we are finally getting games that support up to 8 threads. Also, by respectable framerates I mean a game running on top of the line hardware should never fall below 60fps and should really perform around the 120fps range. Especially in the fps genre.
As for my older equipment, I have not had issues in other games yet and when I can play modern games like BF3 with ease I don't see a reason to upgrade hardware for a poorly coded free to play game.
1: And they were correct, having been limited to DX9 at the time. This new multi-core trend is with DX11.
2: The graph is from over a year ago. Completely irrelevant.
3: Find me another game running DX 9 with hundreds of people on the screen at the same time with the visual quality of PS2 that you could even dare
to compare PS2 to. You can scream "it's poorly optimized" till the cows come home, but you obviously don't
understand how insane of a hit that is on a system limited by such a poor standard as DX9.
The fact you see 3-4 times
the amount of players per side
in an engagement than BF4 even supports total
is a testament to how badly it's going to punish things. Not to mention every single one of those people can be in a vehicle. Collision detection for hundreds of people firing thousands of rounds is extremely hard to compute. The physics behind every bullet is nasty. The dozens if not hundreds of explosions going off constantly.
Call them lazy all you like. The fact they even got it working at all shows how good they are. This patch just proves it again. Complain more when you understand the difficulty of what they've done and why is hits your CPU so hard.
Originally Posted by Scorpion49
Sounds about right. The performance gain from this patch is massive.
On a side note, what the heck do I do with 13,500 station cash? I had two $75 Nvidia codes a while back so I threw them on the account but I don't know what to use it for.
1: 2nd Burster for the MAX. Absolute must-have.
2: Empire Specific Rocket Launcher. Striker for TR, Phoenix for NC, I forget the Vanu one.
3: Rocket Pods and/or AA Missiles for the ESF.
4: Basic camo, one for each continent. Esamir Snow for Esamir, and so on. Something to help you fit in with the background. The less they can see your outline, the less likely they are to hit you. Obviously works better at range, as when you're up close to someone there's not a whole lot of guessing involved.
I find as an NC that Gray Scale works insanely well against the Vanu as a Light Assault because the limited color on my armor plates plus the dark gray of the almost full-cover camo helps me blend in with them and most lower-BR players who identify by color instead of silhouette will hesitate before shooting if not ignore me entirely.
5: AP and HE rounds for tanks. Just in case.
6: Bolt Action Sniper rifle if you don't have one already.
7: SMG. Buy once, can be used with every class.
8: LA gun that can use an under barrel. For the NC this is the Gauss Compat S. It's a more or less "silent" (won't show you on the mini-map) insta-kill shot if you can hit them.
9: As Kaldari said, make yourself look like a badass.