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post #1 of 7
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Hello everyone,

I regret having to do this but I don't really have any time right now and need to be ready to order by the end of the month.

I'm looking to build a pair of HTPC's for some gaming and television.

The budget is ~$800(US)

OS does not need to be in the budget, sound card probably isn't necessary.

Here's a list of what I would like it to do:

1. Gaming(obviously)
2. Tuning to local "on air" stations
3. Have HDMI audio output
4. Have a remote, wireless keyboard/mouse and gaming controller.
5. Capability to connect to wifi
6. Bluray/DVD reader
7. Relatively cool
8. Low profile as possible
9. SSD Boot drive w/ HDD for games/media files

One more addendum is just to let everyone know that audio and video will be going into a receiver through hdmi and out.

Again, this is just a time thing for me, otherwise I would do it myself.

Thanks in advance thumb.gif ,

Zuccini
post #2 of 7
the low profile HTPC case and the SSD really up the price. Cool looking and low profile simply do not go together. The best you can hope for is not horrifically ugly.

this is the cheapest system with your requirements I would bother to try to game on.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120V 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($235.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill N600PCE 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($26.19 @ Amazon)
Case: Inwin IW-BL672.300TBLF MicroATX Desktop Case ($59.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Thermaltake SMART 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($31.00 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($58.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $864.09
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-13 01:53 EST-0500)

If you're willing to go with a possibly crappy PSU, I can make the cut... barely

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120V 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 2 100GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($52.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($235.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill N600PCE 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($26.19 @ Amazon)
Case: Apevia X-Master Black/Silver HTPC Case w/500W Power Supply ($59.99 @ Mwave)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($58.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $806.09
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-13 01:59 EST-0500)

This is still $7 over. You could get underneath the $800 mark by buying a bottom shelf b/g wifi card. But you Really don't want to. I'm also not too sure how quiet it is going to be.

Another way to save a pile of cash is buy the video card used. that same 7950 will go for 50-80 dollars less used on ebay.
Edited by bombastinator - 11/12/13 at 11:05pm
New gaming rig
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k some mid range asrock. extreme 4 maybe? 2x gigabyte windforce 7950 2 x 8 corsair balistix sport 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
MouseMouse PadAudio
came with the cheapass keyboard who cares? some $30 no name 2+sub speakers I bought at mic... 
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New gaming rig
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k some mid range asrock. extreme 4 maybe? 2x gigabyte windforce 7950 2 x 8 corsair balistix sport 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
MouseMouse PadAudio
came with the cheapass keyboard who cares? some $30 no name 2+sub speakers I bought at mic... 
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post #3 of 7
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Originally Posted by bombastinator View Post

the low profile HTPC case and the SSD really up the price. Cool looking and low profile simply do not go together. The best you can hope for is not horrifically ugly.

this is the cheapest system with your requirements I would bother to try to game on.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($159.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Seidon 120V 86.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M/USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($235.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Wireless Network Adapter: Rosewill N600PCE 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter ($26.19 @ Amazon)
Case: Inwin IW-BL672.300TBLF MicroATX Desktop Case ($59.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Thermaltake SMART 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($31.00 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($58.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $864.09
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-13 01:53 EST-0500)

What kind of flexibility do we have if there is no need to buy ram(looked around and I have some)

I also would probably do the node 605 for case to be able to fit the 7950
Are you sure that that 550 watt psu can handle the load?
I could go up to around $1000
post #4 of 7
pcpartpicker listed the load for that build at 444w. At 500w you'll be fine, but pretty much maxed out. Maybe one more low draw card, and another mechanical HD, but that's it. That's all you have room for on that board though.

With the 500w build, the PSU is effectively free though, plus as a noname PSU it is unlikely to last. Upgrading the PSU would be the r\first step in further upgrading the machine.

Losing the memory buys you $60. You could buy a beter case or a real PSU. Most better cases REQUIRE a seperate PSU though, so unless you can find another $50 on top of that it won't help the case situation much. You could upgrade from a 8320 to an 8350, which is not a bad idea.
Price of admission for Intel is a $100 increase.

getting a better cooler is a $50 increase as well, either on air or water, because of low profile requirement.

Let's see what I can do with a bump to $900 and no memory...
New gaming rig
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k some mid range asrock. extreme 4 maybe? 2x gigabyte windforce 7950 2 x 8 corsair balistix sport 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
MouseMouse PadAudio
came with the cheapass keyboard who cares? some $30 no name 2+sub speakers I bought at mic... 
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New gaming rig
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k some mid range asrock. extreme 4 maybe? 2x gigabyte windforce 7950 2 x 8 corsair balistix sport 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
MouseMouse PadAudio
came with the cheapass keyboard who cares? some $30 no name 2+sub speakers I bought at mic... 
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post #5 of 7
Thread Starter 
Alright, I'm guessing that you wouldn't really consider the jump to Intel as warranted for this type of build?
post #6 of 7
intel has it's advantages. The 8350 is effectively the fastest processor AMD has atm, and it's competitive with the midrange i5s (though you do get more threads) a 460k is faster straight up though the 8350 clocks better, and wins slightly in heavy overclocking shootouts.

intel gets you miniITX though.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake CLW0223 99.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 2 100GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($52.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($195.66 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($34.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($69.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: LG UH12NS30 Blu-Ray Reader, DVD/CD Writer ($40.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $863.57
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-11-13 22:54 EST-0500)

this is slightly taller phyysically than some of the other builds, but on the whole the case is very small. Prices dropped a bit too on the video card and the blu ray so thaeres a win there that could be applied to the other builds
New gaming rig
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k some mid range asrock. extreme 4 maybe? 2x gigabyte windforce 7950 2 x 8 corsair balistix sport 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
MouseMouse PadAudio
came with the cheapass keyboard who cares? some $30 no name 2+sub speakers I bought at mic... 
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New gaming rig
(15 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
4770k some mid range asrock. extreme 4 maybe? 2x gigabyte windforce 7950 2 x 8 corsair balistix sport 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
MouseMouse PadAudio
came with the cheapass keyboard who cares? some $30 no name 2+sub speakers I bought at mic... 
  hide details  
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post #7 of 7
Thread Starter 
I don't think I would want to go with the mini itx, seeing as I would 1-2 more expansion slots(prob just pciex1) for a tuning card and maybe something else.
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