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Is XFX a good brand for these two gpus? Since they come with a free bf4 on newegg, I was thinking about getting one of these cards.(potentially saving 80$ is it worth?)

How do they compare to the other versions? I know 290 is very known for it's heat and noise issues but how much would the aftermarket brands be when they release?

Also, how would a 7950 at around 150-180 compare in terms of price/performance?

Oh, and how optimal are these for 1080p gaming? I'm running 2 monitors, one is a BenQ 2420TE 144hz and the other is just a TN monitor.
Edited by r0cawearz - 11/15/13 at 12:02am
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No, definitely not XFX. XFX 280x would be an aftermarket XFX cheaped out design. The reference 290 from XFX would be okay as its a reference design, however you'd still have to deal with XFX for any warranty support.

Sapphire, Gigabyte, Asus, and MSI basically in that order. Powercolor and HIS are also fine, although less talked about.

The 7950 can easily overclock to the levels of the 280x, as the 280x is just a rebranded 7970GHz edition (essentially). So that'd be roughly 1100 / 1500 on a 7950 which is very easy to get to.

The 290 "heat issues" are completely blown out of porpotion. They run hot because the fan stays at low RPM's to stay as quiet as possible. Any reference AMD card is going to be noisy and hot compared to non reference air cooled cards. Basically the only reason to get a reference card is if you're going to run a water block on it usually, or if you just like the looks, or just can't wait for the non reference cards.
Edited by pioneerisloud - 11/15/13 at 12:05am
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Hmm, I'm leaning towards a 7950 because of how much cheaper it is, but for a 290 I could get it for around 380 along with a BF4(which would be around 320+bf4). Is it not worth getting if I don't plan on getting a waterblock?

Also, how much would a nonreference 290 be when it's released? Any estimates?
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Hmm, I'm leaning towards a 7950 because of how much cheaper it is, but for a 290 I could get it for around 380 along with a BF4(which would be around 320+bf4). Is it not worth getting if I don't plan on getting a waterblock?

Also, how much would a nonreference 290 be when it's released? Any estimates?

7950 is definitely "the card" to get, all the way up to the R9 290 really. The 280x is okay, but the 7950 can easily get to the same performance levels (within 1-3% depending on the game).

The R9 290 reference is a solid enough card from what I can tell. It'll just be noisy with a good fan profile to keep the card cool enough, or it'll run really hot but be quiet-ish. The reference coolers always suck (that's actually why I'm trading my 7970 because I can't stand the noise anymore, lol). Is the 290 worth getting? Depends on if you can handle the noise. I'd definitely not get one and keep the fan speed at auto, I like to overclock things.

The difference in price is GENERALLY anywhere from nothing to about $20-50 depending on the brand, type of cooler, and the overclock from the factory. Usually, the price is about $10-20 at most difference....usually.

Basically, with AMD cards, you've got the HD7850 / 7870 or R9 270 (all of these are really close to each other in performance). These are all worth in my books about $150 (I haven't checked on newegg for a long time). The 7950 is about $200, and holds that price bracket really really well. It's a huge upgrade from the lower end cards, and keeps right up with the high end ones. Then there's the R9 290 at $400, which is a HUGE upgrade from the 7900 series and the 280x. The 7950, 7970, and 280x are all so close to each other in performance, they're really just about all the same card. The 290 is I want to say a 40-50% increase? It gets about 20% less performance than two 7950's in crossfire. Anything other than those cards, really isn't worth looking into if you ask me. But it fully depends on your uses and budget.
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you also might wanna give the r9 290 another glance. Based on this thread, some reference cards are unlocked to r9 290x: www.overclock.net/t/1442692/vc-powercolor-radeon-r9-290-unlocked-into-r9-290x/60
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No, definitely not XFX. XFX 280x would be an aftermarket XFX cheaped out design. The reference 290 from XFX would be okay as its a reference design, however you'd still have to deal with XFX for any warranty support.

Sapphire, Gigabyte, Asus, and MSI basically in that order. Powercolor and HIS are also fine, although less talked about.

The 7950 can easily overclock to the levels of the 280x, as the 280x is just a rebranded 7970GHz edition (essentially). So that'd be roughly 1100 / 1500 on a 7950 which is very easy to get to.

The 290 "heat issues" are completely blown out of porpotion. They run hot because the fan stays at low RPM's to stay as quiet as possible. Any reference AMD card is going to be noisy and hot compared to non reference air cooled cards. Basically the only reason to get a reference card is if you're going to run a water block on it usually, or if you just like the looks, or just can't wait for the non reference cards.

A minor quibble. There is one other one: heat

Reference cards blow most of their heat directly out of the case. If you have a case that is short on cooling, or want to run something like trifire on air, reference cards can come in handy. 3 reference cards on air would be downright earplug worthy though, so it's sort of academic.
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