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Originally Posted by brucethemoose View Post

Watch a good, dark movie on a Panasonic plasma... it's eye opening. While IPS is better than PLS/TN and not quite as good as VA, LCDs are terrible when it comes to black levels/shadow detail.

But I'm not complaining, really. 1440p IPS at 115hz is as good as it gets for me!

I was talking about korean PLS, black levels were rich at the expense of detail. Also screen uniformity after O.Cing those PLS the screen color fades from left/right. For me, nothing beats the IPS for image quality and especially with o.c.
post #62 of 65
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Originally Posted by JoHnYBLaZe View Post



Wow, didn't see you bought it already, well like you said if your happy your happy thumb.gif Disagree with the corvette analogy, because these are two different panels and provide unique experiences. I would take the PLS over that 800$ dollar ASUS ROG TN panel even with G_SYNC and 120 hz
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Matter of fact I have, and after three different qnix's I can confidently tell you, you WILL NEVER get good accuracy after you O.C. it......when I tell you I have obsessed over this....if you only knew! But some people just aren't that picky rolleyes.gif


Moves the gamma slightly beyond the point of no return....I've had both monitors with the same train of thought "oh well I'll just calibrate, save money" axesmiley.png mission impossible. The cheaper monitor your referring to is a PLS not an IPS. Have you owned either? headscratch.gif The Qnix and X-star's have come up in price so your not saving 300 more like -200. The tempest has a legitmate warranty. If your planning on pushing the monitor full settings, 100+ hz, good GPU's, DON'T SKIMP ON THE MONITOR.......just a suggestion
You can see detail in black screens on an IPS monitor you actually know what your looking at, what good is black level if its just an ink blotch a EX: black car becomes a black silhouette of a car, and it's extremely annoying! The coil whine is also annoying but can be modded and only noticeable during white screens

I have owned both and several other mainstream and korean screens. Assumptions are very unhelpful which is why i do not make them. The monitor from the website i recommended is NOT PLS it is IPS exactly like the overlord screen. Here is the direct link since you somehow got it wrong: http://emaxeon.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=25&product_id=42

The gamma is perfectly attainable unless you are looking to make the gamma shift and color accuracy exact to graphical artist levels. Most here at the forum would be perfectly happy if we got within 10% of true color which is more than doable. Again you are making an arguement to spend hundreds of extra dollars for something that is NOT going to be detectable by the user unless you print off a color test image, put it up to the screen and try very hard to find discrepancies(I know i have done it). These are mainly for gaming and gaming doesn't require that your display be a spitting image of perfection in terms of gamma. Heck some members like some extra gamma.

Also the Qnix monitors are still 300 all over the place. just do a search before making up numbers. Here it is easy:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=qnix+1440p&_sop=15&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC1.A0.Xqnix+2560x1440&_nkw=qnix+2560x1440&_sacat=0

The tempest monitors do have a good warranty and warranty review but so does the squaretrade warranty. You can't say any of these is skimping on the monitor. The Qnix is PLS some people just strait prefer PLS and the only way to less skimp would be to go mainstream. Also the monitor i posted from that other site(which is half the price) is the same panel. What exactly are you skimping on by getting either of these? One offers an alternate preference with difference pros and cons, and the other is the same panel(IPS). ALL of this is previously posted in this thread with pictures!

Sorry but your entire post just bleeds mis-information. Do some searches, find real tested(or testable) information, and THEN give some well founded advice. You also might want to search someones past posts before tossing comments around like "do you even own the item you are giving advice on?" If you owned this monitor then you should have read through the club thread for all of the things i have been telling people in this thread and would have seen my posts(since they are almost impossible to miss when searching in the thread) and knew not only do i own a Qnix, i actually own 4 of them. It really seems like you bought it, tried it a bit, and then quite. Otherwise you would not have made many of these comments and i wouldn't have to correct you.

EDIT: And the corvette analogy is sound in the fact that it demonstrates mis-allocation of funds to achieve the same goal. Whether you agree with it or not it fits the situation's scope.
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Originally Posted by JoHnYBLaZe View Post



I was talking about korean PLS, black levels were rich at the expense of detail. Also screen uniformity after O.Cing those PLS the screen color fades from left/right. For me, nothing beats the IPS for image quality and especially with o.c.

If you like the IPS overclockers that is your preference. PLS always has been a bit warmer and may have a slight expense of detail on darker images when overclocked but you can optimize pixel clock timings to not only lessen the gamma shift but also all but eliminate the uniformity. IPS has problems too(like looking like a flashlight even with a solid black screen)
Edited by Spartan F8 - 1/11/14 at 12:25am
post #63 of 65
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Originally Posted by Spartan F8 View Post


I have owned both and several other mainstream and korean screens. Assumptions are very unhelpful which is why i do not make them. The monitor from the website i recommended is NOT PLS it is IPS exactly like the overlord screen. Here is the direct link since you somehow got it wrong: http://emaxeon.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=25&product_id=42

The gamma is perfectly attainable unless you are looking to make the gamma shift and color accuracy exact to graphical artist levels. Most here at the forum would be perfectly happy if we got within 10% of true color which is more than doable. Again you are making an arguement to spend hundreds of extra dollars for something that is NOT going to be detectable by the user unless you print off a color test image, put it up to the screen and try very hard to find discrepancies(I know i have done it). These are mainly for gaming and gaming doesn't require that your display be a spitting image of perfection in terms of gamma. Heck some members like some extra gamma.

Also the Qnix monitors are still 300 all over the place. just do a search before making up numbers. Here it is easy:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=qnix+1440p&_sop=15&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR2.TRC1.A0.Xqnix+2560x1440&_nkw=qnix+2560x1440&_sacat=0

The tempest monitors do have a good warranty and warranty review but so does the squaretrade warranty. You can't say any of these is skimping on the monitor. The Qnix is PLS some people just strait prefer PLS and the only way to less skimp would be to go mainstream. Also the monitor i posted from that other site(which is half the price) is the same panel. What exactly are you skimping on by getting either of these? One offers an alternate preference with difference pros and cons, and the other is the same panel(IPS). ALL of this is previously posted in this thread with pictures!

Sorry but your entire post just bleeds mis-information. Do some searches, find real tested(or testable) information, and THEN give some well founded advice. You also might want to search someones past posts before tossing comments around like "do you even own the item you are giving advice on?" If you owned this monitor then you should have read through the club thread for all of the things i have been telling people in this thread and would have seen my posts(since they are almost impossible to miss when searching in the thread) and knew not only do i own a Qnix, i actually own 4 of them. It really seems like you bought it, tried it a bit, and then quite. Otherwise you would not have made many of these comments and i wouldn't have to correct you.

EDIT: And the corvette analogy is sound in the fact that it demonstrates mis-allocation of funds to achieve the same goal. Whether you agree with it or not it fits the situation's scope.
If you like the IPS overclockers that is your preference. PLS always has been a bit warmer and may have a slight expense of detail on darker images when overclocked but you can optimize pixel clock timings to not only lessen the gamma shift but also all but eliminate the uniformity. IPS has problems too(like looking like a flashlight even with a solid black screen)

I posted about the Qnix and you responded to my post to which I responded, and betwixt that little interaction no one made any suggestion as to another IPS monitor rolleyes.gif Why would anyone assume we were speaking about Qnix's and tempest's in a thread about drum.gif......WELL WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT! doh.gif Furthermore kimosabe, it's a lot more than a simple "gamma shift" if were going to speak perfectly technical, and I definitely "DETECTED IT" and don't need to "find real tested (or testable) information" as its WELL DOCUMENTED EVERYWHERE thumb.gif On that note why don't you post some "real tested (or testable) information" on how the "gamma is perfectly attainable" or what is going to be "detectable by the user" wth.gif Lastly, my exact question was "Have you owned either?" a simple question for which you made many of those "assumption" things you passionately swore against in the begining of the book you just wrote biggrin.gif

P.S. The tempest is $499 - $300 = $200 difference....what made up numbers are YOU talking about headscratch.gif Look it up yourself.....there, now wasn't that easy? tongue.gif
Edited by JoHnYBLaZe - 1/11/14 at 10:44pm
post #64 of 65
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Originally Posted by JoHnYBLaZe View Post

P.S. The tempest is $499 - $300 = $200 difference....what made up numbers are YOU talking about headscratch.gif Look it up yourself.....there, now wasn't that easy? tongue.gif

This is the only part of your comment worth replying to. The that the last time i looked at the Overlord Tempest it was still 599 which explains the price discrepancy. The rest of this is just offensive, name calling, and flaming all of which is against the terms of service here. Hopefully most of the last few comments gets removed because it honestly doesn't help anyone in the thread. Everything you really need to know about the comparison of these 2-3 monitors is very well summed up in the first 1-3 pages of this thread. I will modify my previously posted figures earlier in the thread to reflect the Overlord price drop.

P.S. I hope you improve your level of communication as you become a more seasoned member of OCN.
Edited by Spartan F8 - 1/11/14 at 11:08pm
post #65 of 65
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Originally Posted by Spartan F8 View Post

This is the only part of your comment worth replying to. The that the last time i looked at the Overlord Tempest it was still 599 which explains the price discrepancy. The rest of this is just offensive, name calling, and flaming all of which is against the terms of service here. Hopefully most of the last few comments gets removed because it honestly doesn't help anyone in the thread. Everything you really need to know about the comparison of these 2-3 monitors is very well summed up in the first 1-3 pages of this thread. I will modify my previously posted figures earlier in the thread to reflect the Overlord price drop.

P.S. I hope you improve your level of communication as you become a more seasoned member of OCN.

Putting all this to the side tho, the gamma shift really did bother me spartan biggrin.gif I share your point of view that it may not bother some people but my whole thing was, I'm about to buy to 2 gpu's to power this thing and my textures are all messed up, also the back light bleed lottery and hard to make things out in dark images. I tried three different panels, 1 died on me the other I sold seeing if it was a specific problem. My opinion is, if your gonna go all out with gpu's best to have accurate display for them . We can agree to disagree.
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