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I just got what is appearing to be a tough request. The ASUS 1025c notebook I speak of is barely usable with !gb RAM (sodimm I believe) and Win 7 starter. It is cpu limited to only accepting 1gb more memory, adding more memory is the easy part. The part that can be bothersome is, I want to install XP (I could not get the owner to go for a Linux distro install). I will need to pickup a USB DVD drive for the XP install (or so the guides I have read say). I ask if anyone else has made these modifications. Rather than being intimidated by this project I take it as a challenge. This notebook will be an entirely new creature if I can get it running under XP with 2gb memory. The hardest part seems to be getting drivers to install correctly.
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I just got what is appearing to be a tough request. The ASUS 1025c notebook I speak of is barely usable with !gb RAM (sodimm I believe) and Win 7 starter. It is cpu limited to only accepting 1gb more memory, adding more memory is the easy part. The part that can be bothersome is, I want to install XP (I could not get the owner to go for a Linux distro install). I will need to pickup a USB DVD drive for the XP install (or so the guides I have read say). I ask if anyone else has made these modifications. Rather than being intimidated by this project I take it as a challenge. This notebook will be an entirely new creature if I can get it running under XP with 2gb memory. The hardest part seems to be getting drivers to install correctly.

Wow, lol just wow.

I guess your scared that once you format the hard drive you may not be able to boot it because it wont regonize your USB DVD device is that correct?

Because if it is, I have done it with an OLD OLD laptop, but vista>XP and on an old HP elitebook not that specific netbook/laptop.

From my experience everything went, smooth..i was scared my usb dvd driver would not be seen by the computer..but it was..and wah lah like a regular install it worked!
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Well yes, the fear is with hardware being recognized. One of the guides I read on doing this suggested that the boot order be left at internal drive first. I can not figure why this would be so. I provide a link to the instructions.It is down under "Special Notes" in the XP section
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4062
Edited by PCCstudent - 11/15/13 at 10:01pm
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Well yes, the fear is with hardware being recognized. One of the guides I read on doing this suggested that the boot order be left at internal drive first. I can not figure why this would be so. I provide a link to the instructions.It is down under "Special Notes" in the XP section
http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4062

I saw through it,
ha
your getting paranoid bud! Have confidence it seems straight forward and safe if it really does include that asus multi purpose driver dvd that is included!

Plus you cant go wrong with such a detailed guide that was within that link
http://forum.notebookreview.com/notebook-dummy-guide-articles/81828-windows-xp-installation-guide.html


Have confidence! thumb.gif

also concerning the order, it makes sense. Since you want to have the device to boot on installation files within the hard drive and not have it get confused that you want to repair it through the CD. (Or at least that's how I understood it)
Edited by istudy92 - 11/15/13 at 10:38pm
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Istudy, if I leave the boot order at internal first what tells the boot process that it is done with data on the internal drive and now go look at the USB DVD drive? Perhaps it is assumed that all I have placed on the internal drive is the hardware drivers. Perhaps I should not have the USB DVD hooked up when I am doing the inital driver install, that would solve the "stop looking at the internal drive and go to the USB DVD drive issue".

Since I have a blank drive I can stub in for the internal drive I will at least be able to return to my Win 7 starter configuration (but this time with 2gb memory). If I felt that the addition of a full gig of memory would make a Win 7 notebook tolerable to work with I would leave it at Win 7 starter (this is for my apartment manager or we would be using a Linux distro). How do you think performance would be with Win 7 starter on 2gb? Right now 68% of memory is used (per task manager) and the notebook is only working on keeping itself running.

If the notebook came with an Atom 2800 instead of the 2600 I would put a full 4gb of memory in it but the Atom 2600 is limited to 2gb (and Win 7 starter only recognizes 2 gb).

The main tool to open this notebook is a stiff piece of plastic like a credit card.

Yes this is my first piece of work on a proprietary notebook. Coming from the generic desktop field I have a bit of equipment shock.
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first let me recommend a useful tool
http://www.amazon.com/e-flite-A256-Screwdriver-00-Phillips/dp/B000BRLHWM/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1384620269&sr=8-14&keywords=laptop+screw+driver

5 bucks goes long way, its like a burner cellphone some people are able to use it multiple times some just once, but its a must have=] I have one and has served me well! (if you decide to go through with it)


1) 2 gb, would increase your utilization by 100% thats for sure, and one thing I believe (correct me if i am wrong someone) when memory usage is being used in excess than what it can handle then it will begin to use the hdd as a memory source (once again not sure 100%).
If this holds true and your device is running "high" then adding 1gb more would then take away memory usage from a SLOW hdd and be used on the actual RAM.

If this all holds true (I hope it does) then the device would run smoother, open more tabs, etc what memory normally does)

I am sure the apt. manager would be able to tolerate 2gb, even though 4gb is the current standard on this year.
It is what it is at this point=/ unless upgrading the atom chip..but thats a waste of money..at this point just get a tablet that functions just as good!

2) If I am correct about this, when you are on win 7 put in XP cd, it will read it and start to "downgrade" to xp, then as for a "reboot", from there it is 100% important to take away the CD/DVD/usbDVD out, and let the computer boot on win XP set up by itself (since the cd has given the harddrive an promt of bootmngr command (correct me if im wrong someone) and it will go to xp set up to begin hdd partition wipe and obvious the CD USBDVD device would be needed to install. (If i am correct the motherboard should be able to recognize the DVD-USB drive since they are from same manufactor and may have some sort of internal memory to recognize it (not sure).
but all in all it should work.
but you are right disconnect the usb when its rebooting after win7 promt restart screen occurs.

edit1: Also on a side not, I wouldnt recommend windows xp, i believe 2014 MSFT will completely end service for ALL xp users, so viruses, hacks and such are much more open to attack you device since XP is abandoned forever. Something to keep in mind. Win 7 is really the new xp standard. ..i have win8..i hate it..so buggy..
Edited by istudy92 - 11/16/13 at 8:59am
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Hello istuduy, thanks I have a 00 Phillips already. No upgrade of the Atom chip is possible as it is soldered in .I do wonder why I cannot wipe the existing internal drive (for safety use my spare drive and keep Win 7 starter as a backup), install what is on the supplied driver disc, then proceed with a standard XP install(with partitioning). Not getting upgrades from Microsoft (the no support issue) can be dealt with. If the owner uses this notebook for a full year more I will be amazed, she already wants to dump it. How ASUS could put a product out there with such low installed memory is just a shame. This thing takes 20 seconds just to bring up its own control panel. You do not web browse, you select a web site you want to visit, go make a sandwich and perhaps it has connected. At first this notebook had a "no memory upgrade possible" label but then some industrious people posted videos on how to do it.

Istudy, I wanted to comment on your reference to when data is written to the hdd. This is called "page filing". Many parameters about page filing are under your control. Some time ago I logged on to a Microsoft forum and I asked "how much RAM do I need to have so that page filing never happens". The Tech answered that page filing is part of the operating system and you can not prevent page filing even if you have a large excess of RAM. It seems the operating system decides to write a certain level or type data to the hdd even if RAM space is available. It was implied that page filing is not always a bad thing. I do seem to remember that you can severely restrict page filing but stopping it totally is not recommended, and simply loading up on RAM will not prevent it from happening on its own.
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Hello istuduy, thanks I have a 00 Phillips already. No upgrade of the Atom chip is possible as it is soldered in .I do wonder why I cannot wipe the existing internal drive (for safety use my spare drive and keep Win 7 starter as a backup), install what is on the supplied driver disc, then proceed with a standard XP install(with partitioning). Not getting upgrades from Microsoft (the no support issue) can be dealt with. If the owner uses this notebook for a full year more I will be amazed, she already wants to dump it. How ASUS could put a product out there with such low installed memory is just a shame. This thing takes 20 seconds just to bring up its own control panel. You do not web browse, you select a web site you want to visit, go make a sandwich and perhaps it has connected. At first this notebook had a "no memory upgrade possible" label but then some industrious people posted videos on how to do it.

Yeah at first when I read your post im like...wow how did he get win 7 on such an old device (as i saw 1 gb,) but then googled it and i was like WHAT!? how could a company build a device with obsolete RAM usage.

But oh well "shurg"

Sorry I couldnt help yeah out though!
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