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Well I have a x58 rig so yes its sata 2. I don't think theres anyway I can get a intel sata 3 controller on this pc. Realistically I don't really notice a difference, my friends pc boots in about 9 seconds.. mine is like 16seconds.
post #12 of 15
That's right, no chance of an Intel SATA chipset update on your or any Intel board. Really sux for X58 too, such a great platform in its day, and it still is. The first Intel SATA III chipsets were the 6 series, like P67 and Z68 (Sandy Bridge CPU boards) but only two Intel SATA III. Finally got six Intel SATA III ports on Z87 chips.

Yet they keep using the lousy Marvell and ASMedia SATA II 2/3, as I call it, at 5Gb/s. I've got four ASMedia SATA ports on my ASR Z87 board, and never use them.

Still, your board's ICH10R SATA chipset is probably the best PC SATA II chip ever made, stable as can be, has all the Intel RAID options. I had four SSDs in RAID 0 for a year on my X58 board, finally removed them just to do something different, the SSDs (Samsung 830's) did not fail or did I lose the RAID volume. I had to run diskpart clean commands on them and then SE to remove the RAID data, it didn't want to die!
post #13 of 15
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Beats a HDD by a little margin?! What HDD would that be? This is a Seagate Barracuda 1TB drive on a SATA II port:



That little M4 has over 40 times the 4K read speed and over 120 times the 4K write speed. The sequential write speed of this HDD is on an empty drive, so the outermost tracks of the HDD. As the HDD get filled, it's sequential write speed will slow down, below the M4's speed. If the Plextor "spanked" the M4 (I disagree) then this 64GB M4 utterly smokes any HDD, and only on a SATA II port.

As elreyhorus said, fewer NAND chips/dies on the 64GB M4 limit its sequential write speed, as well as the first generation Marvell 9174 SSD controller. The original sequential write speed spec (pre-0009 firmware) for the 64GB M4 is 95MB/s, so the OP's M4 is really not doing bad at all.

This is a 128GB M4 on a SATA II port:



I'd say the old 128GB M4 stands up to the Plextor M5 Pro pretty well on a SATA II port, considering how "old" the M4 is. The Plextor has a newer controller and might have slightly faster NAND chips. We would probably see a bigger difference between an M4 and the Plextor on a SATA III port.

Well, compared to sequential 500MB/s and higher, this IS a little margin:thumb:
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That's right, no chance of an Intel SATA chipset update on your or any Intel board. Really sux for X58 too, such a great platform in its day, and it still is. The first Intel SATA III chipsets were the 6 series, like P67 and Z68 (Sandy Bridge CPU boards) but only two Intel SATA III. Finally got six Intel SATA III ports on Z87 chips.

Yet they keep using the lousy Marvell and ASMedia SATA II 2/3, as I call it, at 5Gb/s. I've got four ASMedia SATA ports on my ASR Z87 board, and never use them.

Still, your board's ICH10R SATA chipset is probably the best PC SATA II chip ever made, stable as can be, has all the Intel RAID options. I had four SSDs in RAID 0 for a year on my X58 board, finally removed them just to do something different, the SSDs (Samsung 830's) did not fail or did I lose the RAID volume. I had to run diskpart clean commands on them and then SE to remove the RAID data, it didn't want to die!

Yeah, I'm about to drop a GTX 770 and swap out the 6gb triple channel kit for some 12gb triple channel and I expect this rig to last plenty longer.. I actually had a huge itch to upgrade but in reality one of the few things I'm actually missing is sata 3 from the intel chipset.. but to pay $400-$500 for a new i7/mobo ain't worth it.
post #15 of 15
OP,

Your 64 GB m4 is doing just fine.
In fact, it basically matches the 4K R/W and access times of my 128 GB m4 on SATA III bus (Intel NOT ASMedia port).

I wouldn't worry about you sequential R/W speeds being capped by SATA II and the 8 flash die configuration of your SSD. Not unless you routinely move large files around (iso and movies) which you probably shouldn't do on a 64 GB SSD to begin with.

For an OS drive, your m4 is more than good enough for the job.

    
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