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OH, so I really had mine at a bargain price around 7k ($160) ~ thanks! I'll try to search more around here then. nuf said about that. I'll let the forum run back to it's own topic.

So, I'm really having a blast with the card now. Not been able to do the benches due to gaming. haha! Maybe I'll do the benchmarks after typing these. biggrin.gif and post here again to share! Gelid cooler really doing it's job well, I'm very pleased now with the results... I wish I had the money to buy this beast when it was originally released, but with the price I payed for it now, I even had some spare to buy a new Asus 24" monitor.
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OH, so I really had mine at a bargain price around 7k ($160) ~ thanks! I'll try to search more around here then. nuf said about that. I'll let the forum run back to it's own topic.

So, I'm really having a blast with the card now. Not been able to do the benches due to gaming. haha! Maybe I'll do the benchmarks after typing these. biggrin.gif and post here again to share! Gelid cooler really doing it's job well, I'm very pleased now with the results... I wish I had the money to buy this beast when it was originally released, but with the price I payed for it now, I even had some spare to buy a new Asus 24" monitor.

It's a big bargain anywhere you compared it. thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by cheapchipower View Post

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10855398

Nice one bro. Just a few tips.

Can you clock the Memory to 1500 without adding too much Voltage? If you can, then you should stick with it.

These cards have memory straps that you should aim for optimum performance. These are 1250, 1375, 1500, 1625, 1750 etc. The closer you are to the next higher strap, the better. The closer you are to the previous strap, the performance increase is negligible if not worse.

With your clock, 1400 is closer to 1375 that it is to 1500 that you are better off going back to 1375 if the card cannot make it to 1500.

Visit the 290/290X thread to gain more info. thumb.gif
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oh, well that was very informative bro. Thanks mus1mus! My card's RAM cannot make it past 1400, anything higher than that and the screens just goes black and I have to hard restart my pc again. The thing that bothers me, or rather interests me, is if I run it as an R9-290(non -X) , will it perform better? If I remember everything correctly, from initial launch of this chip, the non-x parts always overclock better than the full versions, and outperform them by a little.

Right now, it somehow feels good that it's unlockable, and it's running as an 290X, but the thing is, it is originally a 290 only. SO that makes me think that somehow during the binning process, these chips have something "less" desirable properties that the manufacturer's decided to cut them down to non-x parts. I already did the flashing process once, and that was successful. I only worry that doing it a few more times might actually kill this old chip. I was really thinking about flashing back some original MSI 290 BIOS and leave it there for good.

Overclocking wise, I do not feel comfortable adding more volts to it. I only have a 650 watt PSU, but the recommended for this chips are 750 right? I fear frying the chip and/or my PSU if I add more power. So yeah, talking about catch 22s now. What do you think? I see your bench results only running a 290. Do you think I'm better off that way? and do BIOS have effects on RAM performance and overclock~abilities? sorry, too many questions! LOL, I think I'll try to find out for myself this weekend.
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Originally Posted by cheapchipower View Post

oh, well that was very informative bro. Thanks mus1mus! My card's RAM cannot make it past 1400, anything higher than that and the screens just goes black and I have to hard restart my pc again. The thing that bothers me, or rather interests me, is if I run it as an R9-290(non -X) , will it perform better? If I remember everything correctly, from initial launch of this chip, the non-x parts always overclock better than the full versions, and outperform them by a little.

Right now, it somehow feels good that it's unlockable, and it's running as an 290X, but the thing is, it is originally a 290 only. SO that makes me think that somehow during the binning process, these chips have something "less" desirable properties that the manufacturer's decided to cut them down to non-x parts. I already did the flashing process once, and that was successful. I only worry that doing it a few more times might actually kill this old chip. I was really thinking about flashing back some original MSI 290 BIOS and leave it there for good.

Overclocking wise, I do not feel comfortable adding more volts to it. I only have a 650 watt PSU, but the recommended for this chips are 750 right? I fear frying the chip and/or my PSU if I add more power. So yeah, talking about catch 22s now. What do you think? I see your bench results only running a 290. Do you think I'm better off that way? and do BIOS have effects on RAM performance and overclock~abilities? sorry, too many questions! LOL, I think I'll try to find out for myself this weekend.
As long as you stick with "official" overclocking tool, e.g. MSI AB or Trixx, then you have nothing to worry about.

Do you have CUinfo when the card still using 290 BIOS? 290X downgrade to 290 is either because they need to produce 290 or it was failed during thermal testing & downgraded to 290 to solved it.
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post #4007 of 4142
unfortunately, no. I recieved this card already hacked with a gigabyte 290x bios. The only thing that makes me think it's an MSI 290 is the stickers around the card showing it's an MSI card and a 290 only. It's also advertised as an MSI 290 when I bought it. That suggestion from mus1mus did really work.

My first result with 1100mhz core and 1400mhz RAM
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10855398


My second result with 1050mhz core and 1350mhz RAM
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10859746
post #4008 of 4142
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Originally Posted by cheapchipower View Post

unfortunately, no. I recieved this card already hacked with a gigabyte 290x bios. The only thing that makes me think it's an MSI 290 is the stickers around the card showing it's an MSI card and a 290 only. It's also advertised as an MSI 290 when I bought it. That suggestion from mus1mus did really work.

My first result with 1100mhz core and 1400mhz RAM
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10855398


My second result with 1050mhz core and 1350mhz RAM
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10859746

Actually, it didn't. frown.gif

Your Physics and Combined are low on the 1100/1400 run.

BTWwwwwwwwwww, 1375.
post #4009 of 4142
ah, 1375, I thought I remembered 1350... LOL, now that works better... Broke the 13k mark! LOL

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/10859899
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How much Voltage do you add?
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