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Sager NP9570 (Clevo P570WM) versus Sager NP8275 (Clevo P170SM)

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I'm a software QA guy. I'll need to be running multiple virtual machines (probably no more than 3-5 at max) at a time, and I'll need to be able to display on 4 screens total (including a built in laptop screen). I'd just go with a desktop, but I'll need to be able to do work from home frequently. Fortunately my company is chipping in $1600 for a laptop, so I can splurge a little.

After spending weeks re-acquainting myself with the current state of laptops, I'm torn between Sager NP9570 (Clevo P570WM) and Sager NP8275 (Clevo P170SM).

Sager NP9570 / Clevo P570WM $3,548
- 17.3" FHD 16:9 120Hz "MatteType" 72% NTSC Color Gamut Sager Screen (1920x1080) (SKU - S1D556)
- Standard No Dead Pixel Policy
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Intel® Core™ i7-4930K, 3.4-3.9GHz (22nm, 12MB L3 smart cache - 6 cores / 12 threads)
- - Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 770M (3.0GB) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 [User Upgradeable]
- No Copper Cooling Upgrade
- 1x USB 2.0 FHD Video Adapter (HDMI & DVI/VGA Inputs) (Laptop Display+External Display from Laptop+ USB FHD Adapter = 4 Total Displays) (up to 2048x1152 Resolution)
- 32GB - DDR3 1600MHz Quad Channel Memory (4 SODIMMS) (SKU - S4Q844P)
- 960GB Crucial M5 Series SSD [SSD2 - SATA III] (SKU - SSD093)
- 8X Super Multi DVDRW/CDRW Combo Drive (Sager) (Dual Layer w/ Software) (SKU - ODD099)
- Sager - Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth™ 4.0 (SKU - WIFI99)
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- ~Windows 8.1 - 64-Bit (64-Bit CD Included) + MS Office 2013 Trial
- 3 Year Parts & LIFETIME Ltd Labor Warranty 24/7 Tech Support w/ LCD Accidental Damage Protection for Sager Machines

And

Sager NP8275 (Clevo P170SM) $3,008
- 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Matte Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Anti-Glare Screen (1920x1080) (SKU - S1X506)
- Standard No Dead Pixel Policy
- NO Professional Monitor Color Calibration
- Sager - 4th Generation Intel® Haswell Core™ i7-4900MQ (2.8GHz - 3.8GHz, 8MB Intel® Smart Cache) (SKU – SPU203)
- - Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- NVIDIA® GeForce™ GTX 770M (3.0GB) GDDR5 PCI-Express DX11 [User Upgradeable] (SKU – GPU001)
- No Copper Cooling Upgrade
- 1x USB 2.0 FHD Video Adapter (HDMI & DVI/VGA Inputs) (Laptop Display+External Display from Laptop+ USB FHD Adapter = 4 Total Displays) (up to 2048x1152 Resolution)
- 32GB - DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (4 SODIMMS) (Operating System Upgrade Required) (SKU - S4T844P)
- 960GB Crucial M5 Series SSD [SSD2 - SATA III] (SKU - SSD093)
- 8X Super Multi DVDRW/CDRW Combo Drive (Sager) (Dual Layer w/ Software)
- Sager - Built-in 802.11 Wireless B/G/N - Stock Wireless Card + Bluetooth™ 4.0 (SKU - WIFI99)
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- Integrated Digital Video Camera
- ~Windows 8.1 - 64-Bit (64-Bit CD Included) + MS Office 2013 Trial
- 3 Year Parts & LIFETIME Ltd Labor Warranty 24/7 Tech Support w/ LCD Accidental Damage Protection for Sager Machines

They differ in that:
-P570 has a CPU (i7-4930K) that is benchmarked at 40% higher than P170's (i7-4900MQ)
-P570 has a 120hz built in monitor that has different specs than P170's.
-P570 can handle a second GPU for GTX 770M SLI, although I'm not sure I'll ever want to actually take advantage of that.
-P570 is ~$500 more expensive
-P570 is probably heavier, but this doesn't bother me.

Also, for either, I know there is a lot of hate for Windows 8, but if I don't mind its UI is there a reason I should consider Windows 7? Or Professional / Ultimate editions?

So, I'm down to these points:
-I feel silly paying for a laptop that is built to handle dual GPU's if I won't use it. Though if I'm powering 4 1080p monitors here (not for gaming mind you), should I consider that additional $300 to go SLI? If I go with a single GPU for now and later on decide I need to go SLI, is this easy enough to do?
-I'm drawn to the 120hz, but not $500 worth. Also, I'm curious about their different monitor specs. Is there any reason I'd be disappointed with this particular 120hz monitor? I don't need crazy monitor specs, I just don't want ghosting or other common defects.
-It's the CPU boost that probably makes or breaks this for me. I know it won't make a difference in gaming, but it should for virtualization. Not only the sheer benchmark improvements, but also the i7-4930K is a 6-core CPU.

So I'm definitely drawn to the P570, but I'm very open to advice.
Edited by Malconstant - 11/17/13 at 11:57am
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Well... you seem to have your mind made up. However if possible, add the IC Diamond thermal compound to the order. Just because they CAN fit that CPU into a laptop doesn't mean it runs icy cool. tongue.gif

As far as the OS, Windows 7 has much greater support. I'd go with Ultimate if possible, but Professional would be fine too.

Now... for the screen... I'm partial to the glossy 90% but that's because I never take my laptop in an area where I've got odd lighting/outdoors. The glossy option is brighter too, and by a fair margin.

Lastly, the GPU question... why boy go for a single 780M? It's plenty fast for when you wanna game and if you feel like going SLI later, you can.

I prefer the P570 too... because of obvious reasons. :3
     
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256GB SanDisk M.2 SSD 1TB HGST 7.2k HDD Custom Cooling by Dell Solutions Windows 10 Home 64-Bit 
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15.6" 1920x1080 IPS Screen Dell 130w PSU Logitech G602 Wireless 
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Xtrac 'Ripper' Mouse Pad 
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