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Game wise - just looked at few. The 9590 does well 2-4 fps in front or behind!

9590 at standard OC doesn't really compete with 4770k at standard OC in most cpu bound games, though



In the well threaded games, like Battlefield 4 and new frostbite engine where they put much work onto highly threading their games, 9590 beats i5 @ oc vs oc but loses to 4770k, and in many like sc2 which are not well threaded it's kinda embarrassing
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One, most on desktops don't play @ less than 1080P, hence why most new reviews of any new hardware don't bench at less. For the most part, new games don't seem to have the inherent CPU bias like old games did.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD: most people on this site need to stop using reviews as indicative of EXACTLY what WE get. I ALWAYS get, often times, WAY better results than any review can muster.
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If you want an actual bench run:

fx @4.5ghz dips to ~10-15fps on this bench run - That is, with Physics disabled, reflections disabled and effects on medium. (CPU settings)

Sc2 engine performance is worse than written though, frametimes are really variable so 80 feels like 50 etc. There's also a stutter of ~80ms every ~7 seconds.

doesn't matter if it's 720p or 1440p max graphics settings, the game is CPU bound enough to be entirely CPU dependant no problem at all with a 650ti on max settings 1080p

I'd give you numbers from FX, but all of the people in sc2 community that are concerned with performance are using nehalem, sandy bridge, ivy or haswell so it's hard to find people to bench with. Hard to say how it is, other than fx@5ghz being even with haswell at ~3-3.5ghz or so
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Depends which version of Cinebench, 11.5 is VERY heavily Intel favoured - which points to my neutral Bench Suite

As Alatar pointed out, this was fixed in R15 and scores still didn't change. Still plenty of neutral suites like CPU intensive games.
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Do you really think that if AMD didn't produce a consumer grade 5GHz chip, Intel would be sitting on their thumbs. Intel needs AMD as much as AMD needs Intel

I don't know what you mean by this comment, Intel doesn't care that AMD rebranded their 8350 and decided to sell it highly marked up. Intel and AMD do not 'need' eachother, I don't know what that means either. The development teams have a lot of respect for eachother if that's what you mean, and both of them are going to really struggle against the real market dominators like Qualcomm and TI.
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9590 at standard OC doesn't really compete with 4770k at standard OC in most cpu bound games, though



In the well threaded games, like Battlefield 4 and new frostbite engine where they put much work onto highly threading their games, 9590 beats i5 @ oc vs oc but loses to 4770k, and in many like sc2 which are not well threaded it's kinda embarrassing
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9590 at standard OC doesn't really compete with 4770k at standard OC in most cpu bound games, though



In the well threaded games, like Battlefield 4 and new frostbite engine where they put much work onto highly threading their games, 9590 beats i5 @ oc vs oc but loses to 4770k, and in many like sc2 which are not well threaded it's kinda embarrassing

Curious , have you ever used an 8 core FX?
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No, i didn't use 4-module fx because i got a nehalem i7 back in 2010 (decent performance and i was largely uneducated) and then my upgrade was jumping on haswell at launch because 4770k is better than piledriver (being £275 vs £120, it better be) and i valued singlethreaded performance as well as multithreaded. Been interested in them, though
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No, i didn't use 4-module fx because i got a nehalem i7 back in 2010 (decent performance and i was largely uneducated) and then my upgrade was jumping on haswell at launch because 4770k is better than piledriver (being £275 vs £120, it better be) and i valued singlethreaded performance as well as multithreaded. Been interested in them, though

I see, thanks for the reply.
I am interested in seeing what th 4770k is all about, too. Not willing to bite on one just yet . The Intel processors of a given socket don't seem to get much cheaper as time goes by, but the motherboards for them tank pretty hard at the introduction of the new socket. It makes it possible to snag a nice board at reasonable price. When that happens, I might have the opportunity to own one then.
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Talking about old obsolete single thread games doesn't go far anymore as even the Indies are going multi thread now. Ever hear of Half Life (1998)? A group of fans decided to upgrade it to the then new source 2006 engine (single thread). They finally released it a little over a year ago. Know what they have been doing the last year? Porting it over to source 2013 (multi thread)! For free!

I am peripherally involved in a fan built game based on the Cryengine (multi thread) that will be free after some more years of work. Look to the future fellows.
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Talking about old obsolete single thread games doesn't go far anymore

Most modern RTS and the only ones played competitively are limited somewhat onto a low number of threads. Sc2 has a community of like half a million, it's not small and it won't be dead in the next two years unless blizzard majorly screws up - there also doesn't seem to be any kind of replacement, etc.

If stuff scales well onto 8 threads, it helps both sides (but 4770k is still stronger and more expensive cpu)
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Expensive.........

The 4770 is the only intel that can hang with the AMD 8s and 9s when it comes to bang for your buck.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-9590+Eight-Core

Don't try to con us about cheap motherboards either. You are all running top dollar Z87s with good cooling.
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