Originally Posted by Belial
I'd definitely say no about asrock being better... they were awesome on p67/z68 but since z77 they have been garbage. The z87 boards are even worse, they use terrible analogue VRMs, trying to play the phase war with more phases but using extremely low quality ones instead. They also still have that awful voltage underreporting to make them look good, in the firmware. Gaps of over .1v on every board.
Stay away from asrock. Only decent board is their cheap flagship which has good ram overclockability for its price under 200.
I used the extreme6 for a while thinking they would have learned their lesson on z77, but turned out its vrm is even worse than z77. Right now gigabyte is by far the best choice for boards unless you want a premium board, in which case I'd say Asus is similiarly good at high end range, ie ROGs.
dont know why someone would say asrock stepped up their game unless you mean like back in p67/z68 days. They've really dropped the ball they once firmly had. I mean you can make a definitive comment like 'asrock is better than asus' because you used an asrock board to play games on and a mild air overclock. No asrock board will come close to the tweakability and ram overclocking on a maximus, those boards hit ram world records consistently.
Thats like saying 'well dodge calibre car is really good, ive had it and it never broke down driving to work. ive never had a ferrari but dodge is way better!'
Obviosly you don't know much about board construction. Or on the specific of the parts usd on their boards. Post up what Asus uses for VRM's and then post the ASROCK VRM units used.
Hitting "world record" OC's is as much and even more about batch part cherry picking and custom tweaked software along with availablility to fund said events and promotion of products vs. type of motherboard hardware used(be it analog or digital design or a hybrid)integrating all the components.
And to state that one motherboard is better than another just because it can potentially "overclock" a bit better(which in reality of things doesn't do much for real world potential and long term stability)is narrow minded thinking. I know plenty of people from my short time here who can claim some good overclocking numbers, but then when it comes to basic functionality of the board and the drivers, the overall product severly lags behind.
"Sure my Asus ROG mobo can OC to the moon, but the audio sounds like poop and has multiple issues when I try and play a simple game or program"
There is more than one way to judge a mother board then just how well it can overclock. Overall stability and functional ability of the network of subsystems to flawlessly interact is another way to judge overall quality.
That said, after due diligence, research and some good hands on the last week on a number of ASROCK and ASUS ROG/TUF products, I'll take the ASROCK every day of the week on the Haswell platform.
Now, Im no expert on a lot of different aspects of the current generation of computer parts in terms of OC performance, but I am an expert on PCB quality, construction and mfg........I deal with PCB boards and the mfg. of them and their components every day. And I can say Asus's overall quality, construction is of a lower grade overall. The discrete surface mount mfg technology they use in their boards is not as advanced at their mfg plants. The premium you pay on those boards is all in the marketing and included software, not the physical board itself.Edited by ZippyPinhead - 11/24/13 at 6:22pm