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Samsung HD103SJ was undetected by Asrock Mobo

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Hello,

I've had a weird problem that I have almost solved but I need some help on understanding what happened. I moved my whole system (lynnfield i5, p55 chipset to fx piledriver, 970 chipset).
Everything was fine except the HD103SJ being undetected most of time in BIOS and OS. Sometimes it would be detected after a few reboots. When in OS after detection I could not install anything on any hard drive and the pc did give one BSOD along with a boot loop another time. Also, the OS was corrupted once and would not boot until an hour long error check (Win8) which sent it back to a restore point.

After the HDD is detected I can only use it until the next power on. Which caused the HDD to make horrible noises like trying to spin up but fail and grind. I though it was dead. I managed to make it spin up only after unplugging and replugging the SATA power cable in BIOS only. This would cause it to spin up and work normally in OS and allow installations. I then found out that this particular Asrock board (extreme 3 970 r2.0) has problems with certains Samsung HDDs. I then updated the firmware which fixed all of these issues (so far!).

Sorry for the long and incoherent background story but here is my question.

The smart data obtained from HD Tune still shows a FAIL on the Spin up time yet the HDD works fine as far as I can tell. Is it risky to use it as storage? Somehow I don't believe the test results.

Cheers.
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I'd toss the drive. Spin Up time failure means the motor isn't getting the platters up to proper speed within a preset maximum time. This has absolutely nothing to do with mobo or BIOS. It *could* have something to do with weak PSU or bad power cable.
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post #3 of 6
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Originally Posted by FastMHz View Post

I'd toss the drive. Spin Up time failure means the motor isn't getting the platters up to proper speed within a preset maximum time. This has absolutely nothing to do with mobo or BIOS. It *could* have something to do with weak PSU or bad power cable.

Really? Can you give a reason why it started working properly after a firmware update? I've already eliminated the PSU and power cable as potential problems.
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post #5 of 6
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Originally Posted by Turkle View Post

I then found out that this particular Asrock board (extreme 3 970 r2.0) has problems with certains Samsung HDDs. I then updated the firmware which fixed all of these issues (so far!).
Is that the firmware of the motherboard or the firmware of the Samsung HD? Because Samsung issued a firmware upgrade for some of its HDs (info at www.seagate.com) to solve a problem related to controller recognition.
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The firmware was for the HDD. I never knew or thought about it initially since I had 2 of the same HDDs connected to the board. Only one of them was working. I later checked the code names printed on them and were slightly different. I did buy them a few months apart...only after checking I decided to read about the firmwares.
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