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I am considering buying a racing wheel for Xbox One and for PC but had some questions.

I bought one a few years ago back when Gran Turismo 4 on PS2 was new, and regretted it badly. The wheel only turned so far, there was this constant force to re-center the wheel and the mounting system was just unusable because of it causing it to pop off my desk until I used tons of duct tape to hold it down. Then my lap times were so bad I went from podium finishes with the controller to not even finishing a complete lap because I had to keep resetting the race when I smashed every wall on the turns.


Now it seems that wheels have come a long way since then with much better mounting hardware and better overall construction. I read some on force feedback, and it seems interesting to me which is what brought me into considering one again.

I usually play as close to sim as possible in racing games if possible (not to say these games are true sims).
For Dirt 3 PC disabling HUD then using in car view for gauges and have to listen to co-driver for turns instead of map, turn full damage on, no rewinds, up dificulty, Manual transition, and no ABS
In Forza 4 I play with TCS off, no racing suggestion line, no brake / steer assists, manual transmission +clutch, then leave HUD on because Forza 4 cocpit view has bad textures and gagues are unusable.

As it is, I can quite easily post top 10% world leader board scores with these settings in Forza 4 with a quickly tuned car against people using a bunch of game assists.
Does using a wheel make driving harder than a Xbox 360 controller, or does it make it harder resulting in worse times? For me when playing against others I don't want to pay heaps of money just to disadvantage myself.
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Some points and helpful info.

1. What is your budget and how extravagant do you want to go (as far as shifter, seat, etc)?

2. Can you wait until we know what wheels are supported?

3. Do you have anything now that you are using?

Budget and how fancy you want it are really the two biggest questions.

As far as just advice over all...the Logitech G27 is a nice setup for the ~$200 it's going for. Get's you a nice leather wrapped wheel with force feedback, 900 degrees of rotation, and aluminum paddle shifters, some decent pedals with gas, brake, and clutch, and a 6-gear shifter with plenty of buttons.

A bit more and you can get a Thrustmaster or a Fanatec (which are generally the best wheel and pedals you can get for the price). Thrustmaster T500 is real nice. Offering better build quality, force feedback, and 1080 degrees of rotation the wheel is over all better. Pedals that come with it are so-so. Made well and all metal they're good but are all just spring loaded...which brings us to Fanatec.

Their wheels are real nice nice but it's their Clubsport pedals that are amazing. All aluminum through and through. The clutch actually FEELS like a clutch (the Logitech and Thrustmaster are just springs) in that it buckles and just feels...real. The brake is a load-cell brake. What this means is that it mimics a real car brake. Just as with the clutch in the Logitech and Thrustmaster their brakes use just normal springs. Because of this the pressure on your cars breaks are measured in distance and it's hard to tell if you've gone too far and lock up the breaks. The Fanatec load cell though is a hydraulic brake. Just as in a real car it measures PRESSURE and not distance. So you can FEEL the brake getting harder and harder to press based on the amount of braking you're doing.


SO! Having said all that, if you want a good set and don't want to spend a lot the Logitech G27 is your man. Complete package with everything you need to get going for $200 or there abouts.

If you want a REAL nice setup then I would just go Fanatec. Their pedals are crazy nice and their wheels are damn good too.

If no one else responds or anything feel free to shoot me a PM if you want more info/help. thumb.gif
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Like androidvageta said its good to wait and see what xb1 is going to support, in terms of product i feel fanatec is in a league of its own, everything works as it should and you feel like you are actually driving rather than just playing a game like with the g27. Fanatec also do really good stands and cockpits to mount everything too
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This is very informative thank you for your reply.

As it is, the Fanatec sounds amazing. I didn't know things got so in depth as what you are describing. But these things sound expensive.
Budget is undecided, it just depends on how far X amount of money goes. I'd like to find something middle ground between price and quality.

I was really hoping to get something that's compatible with both PC and Xbox One. It seems the only offering is the Thrustmaster TX Racing Wheel Ferrari 458 Italia Edition that supports both. I checked on Amazon and MSRP is $400 but has no clutch or shifter. I don't mind paddle shift but as it is, I play Forza 4 with clutch using my xbox 360 controller and car control is far superior vs. no clutch.

As far as mounting system I would prefer to mount it to my table where my keyboard and mouse normally sit. I don't have a whole lot of room for anything else. Something simple that doesn't involve bolting it down to something because I just don't have the room for that or I would. Pic (Click to show)

After looking over everything the Thrustmaster TX seems to be the only wheel that fits my minimum needs at the moment, and $400 is doable. What do you think of it?
The only major downside I see of this is price. For the same price (LINK) I see Fanatec offers an actual seat and mounting system plus 3 pedal setup and nicer looking wheel, but it wont be Xbox one compatible.
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Have you considered a PS4? They have MUCH better wheel support and DriveClub are coming along with Project CARS and Gran Turismo at some point (along with all your usual Code Masters stuff, etc).

This way you won't HAVE to settle. $400 for the Thrustmaster kit is a LOT of money for what you're getting. I don't know, I know in my case I'd much rather a nicer setup and PC functionality then worry about the consoles. Forza is good, sure, but there's much more out there on PC and I'm sure the PS4 will have way more than it's fair share of racers as well.

If you INSIST on an Xbox One compatible wheel then the Thrustmaster will do...if you can get a PS4 or just go PC only then you have much better options. I mean, compared to the Thrustmaster the G27 is like half the price and give's you a lot more...is $200 additional money and no shifter or clutch OK with you?

Just some things to consider. I'd say something like the Fanatec Porsche 911 GT2 and ClubSport pedals would be a MUCH nicer setup for $100 more or so. When I say much nicer I mean "whole different level" nice for not that much more money.

The problem though is Xbox One support. I would be anything it'll work on the PS4 and it'll definitely work on the PC.

So there you have it. Do you require Xbox One support and won't have a problem paying more (double in some cases) for less or could you do just PC or PC/PS4 and get a much better setup and more importantly a superior experience.
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I respect your advice and agree fully, but I just don't have any interest in PS4 after I saw GT6 was PS3.

I think I'll wait until fanatec comes out with some newer products.
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I guess...I only know that Forza 5 isn't doing THAT well in reviews over all. Seems far from the originality in Forza 4. Plus the graphics are...not that good (if you are one that cares).

Do you know of any other racing games coming out for the Xbox One? Just doesn't seem like Forza 5 is going to be THAT much of a contender. You could just get a cheap PS3 and GT6? Polyphony has said that GT for the PS4 isn't going to be for another 1-2 years at least.

I don't know, would just hate to see you have to limit your choices based on a single console/game.
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Think I'll just pass on the racing wheel, I'm doing just fine with the controller thumb.gif
Having rumbles in the triggers made a world of difference when using no ABS. I can feel the tires lock up if I break too hard. Same with no TCS, if I push the car too hard I can feel the tires break traction from the vibration feedback.

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