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Hi everyone!

I'm new to Overclock.net, so bear with me and my noobishness.

I recently acquired a dinosaur of a PC: a Compaq Presario 6330us. It came with a Pentium 4 2.0 GHz Northwood, 1GB DDR/266, Intel Extreme Graphics, a 60GB Seagate 100 MB/s hard drive, all on an ASUS P4G533-LA mobo upgraded to the latest BIOS, v. 3.17 IIRC. Performance is unsurprisingly suckish, and I'd like to put something better in there. Ideally, I'd like to drop in a Pentium 4-M 2.6 GHz (yes, a mobile chip). I've read that Pentium 4-M's are electrical and pin compatible with their desktop counterparts, but will default to a lower multiplier in a non-mobile motherboard. I've also read that P4-M's lack a heat spreader because of their lower voltages and TDP's. Does anyone have any experience or tips with mobile P4 Northwood's on a desktop? I don't want to order a new CPU if it's going to be worse than what I have now.

Thanks in advance!
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That's a $10 CPU. If it doesn't work you're not going to be loosing much.
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The Pentium 4-M (not Banias) is socket 478 compatible and CAN be placed into a normal motherboard.

The really cool and low-power Banias Pentium M is not socket 478 compatible and can't be "dropped" into a normal desktop motherboad. It uses a specific 593-pin socket:
Quoted from http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5020
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Originally Posted by billbartuska View Post

That's a $10 CPU. If it doesn't work you're not going to be loosing much.

I know, but I'm a cheapskate, and wasting money bothers me to no end, even if it's only $10. That's also why all of my hardware is old and decrepit. Honestly, though, I don't need a whole lot of power. Just more than 2 GHz.
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Originally Posted by prescotter View Post

The Pentium 4-M (not Banias) is socket 478 compatible and CAN be placed into a normal motherboard.

The really cool and low-power Banias Pentium M is not socket 478 compatible and can't be "dropped" into a normal desktop motherboad. It uses a specific 593-pin socket:

I know P4-M's can be installed and will work, but I don't know if anyone with a locked-down OEM BIOS has been able to get them to clock past about 1.2 GHz. That, and the missing heat spreader might cause some issues.
Edited by voltoid27 - 11/20/13 at 10:39am
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