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I have a choice between these two and I'm not sure which one is the better option. The 2013 has a listed weight of 105g compared to the 3.5g's 148g, but I don't know how true this is because that's a freaking heavy mouse. I think they included the cable or something in that measurement. If it's truly 148g then it's an easy choice.

I've heard that the 3.5g's sensor is near perfect, but the 2013 has prediction. What is the extent of this and how much difference is there? My current mouse is the SS Sensei (90g) and G9x on a 4HD (REALLY should've gotten the 9HD instead, but it was double the price).
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I have a choice between these two and I'm not sure which one is the better option. The 2013 has a listed weight of 105g compared to the 3.5g's 148g, but I don't know how true this is because that's a freaking heavy mouse. I think they included the cable or something in that measurement. If it's truly 148g then it's an easy choice.

I've heard that the 3.5g's sensor is near perfect, but the 2013 has prediction. What is the extent of this and how much difference is there? My current mouse is the SS Sensei (90g) and G9x on a 4HD (REALLY should've gotten the 9HD instead, but it was double the price).

Yes 3.5G is not 148 gram, might be 5 gram difference between these two or something. 2013 doesn't have prediciton but some people don't like it because of the "smoothing" to counter the ridiculous high DPI. 3.5G sensor is very good, higher LOD but that's easy to fix with some tape if it is a problem.

I have both and for me:

Sensor: 3.5G

3.5G sensor is one of the best. Great response, high tracking speed. Nothing to complain about.

Mouse button switches: 2013

These feel a bit more crisp than 3.5Gs switches, I like it.

Coating: 3.5G

The grainy texture on 2013 is super slippery for me, 3.5G wins here purely because of the glossy sides.

Scroll wheel: 2013

This feels a bit nicer, not as big notches as 3.5G scroll. (It's not bad at all either)

I would have choose 3.5G. More responsive sensor and much easier to lift.
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I hope I could ask some follow up questions about the 3.5 DA.
Are you able to switch dpi with the sidebuttons (instantly)?
Are legacy driver available (no synapse)?
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I hope I could ask some follow up questions about the 3.5 DA.
Are you able to switch dpi with the sidebuttons (instantly)?
Are legacy driver available (no synapse)?

Legacy drivers is available, you shouldn't use Synapse with other DAs than 2013. About the DPI switching I don't know. I never switch DPI so have not tried it either.
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I only ever had one sensor issue with the 3.5G. Maybe I'm the only one on earth but every RMA replacement I ever got also did it.

If you move the mouse in certain directions you can get a solid 1000 Hz on dimr.exe but in other directions, I forget which ones right now, I would only cap out the Hz at about 800 or so. This really screwed with the feeling when playing with it using raw input. No other mouse I've ever tested with dimr.exe did this, all directions cap out and stick right at 1000 Hz when they are set to poll at that rate. Anyone still using a 3.5G on here to give dimr.exe a shot at 1000 Hz and confirm anything like this?
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I only ever had one sensor issue with the 3.5G. Maybe I'm the only one on earth but every RMA replacement I ever got also did it.

If you move the mouse in certain directions you can get a solid 1000 Hz on dimr.exe but in other directions, I forget which ones right now, I would only cap out the Hz at about 800 or so. This really screwed with the feeling when playing with it using raw input. No other mouse I've ever tested with dimr.exe did this, all directions cap out and stick right at 1000 Hz when they are set to poll at that rate. Anyone still using a 3.5G on here to give dimr.exe a shot at 1000 Hz and confirm anything like this?

Why not use 500Hz?
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Originally Posted by daav1d View Post

Why not use 500Hz?

Believe it or not in the same directions I had issues with, even 500 Hz caps out at a lower value like 450 or so. A lot less noticeable but still imperfect compared to so many other mice.

EDIT: my own review of this mouse on YouTube, here's the part I'm talking about:
http://youtu.be/zdGZ0g4U5d0?t=1m10s

Never mind the wallpaper, I used to be a Razer fanboy...lol. You can see the mouse locks to about 770 Hz or so when moved in a particular direction. I have no idea what I'm actually saying in the video, I forget now and don't have speakers with me at the moment. However, you can see the issue right after I first demonstrate a direction in which I do get the full 1000 Hz.
Edited by metal571 - 11/20/13 at 10:04am
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