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Hey guys, I just started researching water cooling 2 days ago and have read as much as I could've in that time period. Here's what I've come up with as well as my questions.

Case: Enthoo Primo
Pump: MCP655
Res: XSPC Dual Bay
Blocks: Raystorm
Blocks: Razor for 780/Titan in SLI
Rads: Monsta 480 bottom mounted
Rads: XT45 480 top mounted
Fittings: 5-6x 90 degree swivel compression, 2-3x 45 degree swivel compression, the rest straight compression
Tubing: 1/2" ID
Drain: T fitting + valve on inlet side of pump

My Loop Order:
1. Bay res
2. Pump bottom mounted
3. Monsta 480 bottom monounted
4. GPU2
5. GPU1
6. CPU
7. XT45 480 top mounted
8. Bay res

Mobo: RIVEBE
CPU: 4930K
RAM: Trident X
GPU: 780 SC
GPU: 780 SC
PSU: Seasonic Platinum 1000W


My questions:
1. Is the pump powerful enough to push this entire loop?
2. Will a pump top improve performance enough to justify the extra cost and voided Swiftech warranty?
3. Do you guys have any compression fitting suggestions for quality and aesthetics? I'm open to both silver and darker ones.
4. Is my PSU enough?
5. Any and all input is appreciated!!!!

My crappy scratch diagram for direction:
post #2 of 5
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It would be my suggestion to not use a bay res, since the Enthoo Primo has that plate to vertically mount a reservoir onto it. Aesthetically, it would honestly be more pleasing with a tube res.

 

Onto your questions:

 

  1.  Yes, it is powerful enough to push your entire loop. You aren't running an extremely restrictive loop, and its not necessarily gigantic/complicated. You could, however, go for another pump, just purely as a redundancy in your loop, in case your main pump fails.
  2. Yes, pump tops will provide a marked increase in flow from your D5. It would be my suggestion to look into Bitspower/EK replacement pump tops. Also, you don't have to go with a Swiftech MCP655. You can generally find naked (without the default crappy pump top) D5s for under $85-90 from Alphacool/XSPC, which would save you some money to put towards a quality pump top.
  3. Compression fittings: Monsoon/Bitspower. Aesthetically, its up to you. I personally like the look of Monsoon's compression fittings, and the finish of them, not to mention they don't kill my fingers when tightening them (shaved off a crapton of skin just trying to tighten the two Bitspower black sparkle fittings I have in my loop. However, in terms of angle fittings/adapters, Bitspower is a lot nicer than Monsoon, both aesthetically and quality (and size).
  4. Your PSU is overkill for that rig. Severe overkill.
  5. Check answer before I went into numbered answers :P. Also, I'd consider, based off my advice before the numbered answers, in switching the in/out ports on the top rad to be on the backside of your case. That way you can make a short run from the CPU to the radiator, and have the outflow from the top rad hidden behind your motherboard tray.

 

Hope this helped!

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Hey man, I have an Enthoo Primo too and am about to order my loop after I give it another day or two to hear a little more feedback and make sure I don't want to change anything. I also made a thread of my own in here if you want to check out my questions as well, but here's a mock-up of my own loop, which isn't a lot different than yours (top and bottom rad, pump mounted on the built in pump bracket, same direction of flow, etc)

Also, I agree that you should move your in/out on the top rad to the back of the case for less criss-crossing and shorter runs, etc. I would also go straight out of the top GPU right up into the top rad, then back down to the CPU, and over to a tube res. That's exactly how I have it in my mock-up below. I know you're probably not doing a tube res because your motherboard separates the two graphics cards too much so the bottom one is too low and would hit the backer. However, you could always modify the bracket so that the indentation/cut-out for the graphics card goes down low enough, or just remove the bracket and mount a res directly to the motherboard tray in the same spot, just without the actual bracket. OR, there's always the second res mount at the back of the case next to the rear exhaust fan. The only thing with that is it makes cable runs longer to the pump, and cramps things a little, but still worth it over a bay res. Plus, the Enthoo has plenty of ways to hide tubing runs in the huge compartment in the back.

Here's my mock-up:


@Kinaesthetic - what's wrong with the Monsoon 90 and 45 adaptors? They are quite different looking but seem pretty nice to me. I'm going with gold Monsoon fittings and Monsoon is the only company I know of that makes gold. Is there anything wrong with using the Monsoon adapters? I suppose since I'm using white tubing, I could use white right-angle Bitspower fittings if I have to.
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Originally Posted by Kinaesthetic View Post

It would be my suggestion to not use a bay res, since the Enthoo Primo has that plate to vertically mount a reservoir onto it. Aesthetically, it would honestly be more pleasing with a tube res.

Onto your questions:
  1.  Yes, it is powerful enough to push your entire loop. You aren't running an extremely restrictive loop, and its not necessarily gigantic/complicated. You could, however, go for another pump, just purely as a redundancy in your loop, in case your main pump fails.
  2. Yes, pump tops will provide a marked increase in flow from your D5. It would be my suggestion to look into Bitspower/EK replacement pump tops. Also, you don't have to go with a Swiftech MCP655. You can generally find naked (without the default crappy pump top) D5s for under $85-90 from Alphacool/XSPC, which would save you some money to put towards a quality pump top.
  3. Compression fittings: Monsoon/Bitspower. Aesthetically, its up to you. I personally like the look of Monsoon's compression fittings, and the finish of them, not to mention they don't kill my fingers when tightening them (shaved off a crapton of skin just trying to tighten the two Bitspower black sparkle fittings I have in my loop. However, in terms of angle fittings/adapters, Bitspower is a lot nicer than Monsoon, both aesthetically and quality (and size).
  4. Your PSU is overkill for that rig. Severe overkill.
  5. Check answer before I went into numbered answers tongue.gif. Also, I'd consider, based off my advice before the numbered answers, in switching the in/out ports on the top rad to be on the backside of your case. That way you can make a short run from the CPU to the radiator, and have the outflow from the top rad hidden behind your motherboard tray.

Hope this helped!

Hey Kinaesthetic, thanks for the reply.

I really wanted a tube res but I don't think the resevoir plate works with 10.5" cards in SLI in slots 1-3. I have the EVGA light up SLI bridge that I'd be using with this setup. With that said, I'm not looking to drill this case..

1. I'm glad the 655 is enough - I was worried after reading some people say it simply wasn't enough for a slightly more complicated loop.
2. Bitspower is what I had in mind for the pump top smile.gif
3. Thank you. This narrows down my browsing and hair tearing out time, especially since all the fittings look the same!
4. Really? I have read people measuring 1100 watts from the wall with the same setup OC'd (my 780's are over volted as well to 1.212v). Either way I will be trying it with the seasonic before looking into 1200-1300 psu's
5. Good idea about routing it behind the motherboard tray since there IS a grommet right below the very top left corner. However, I think this will cut off the use of the rear exhaust fan..
Quote:
Originally Posted by ADragg View Post

Hey man, I have an Enthoo Primo too and am about to order my loop after I give it another day or two to hear a little more feedback and make sure I don't want to change anything. I also made a thread of my own in here if you want to check out my questions as well, but here's a mock-up of my own loop, which isn't a lot different than yours (top and bottom rad, pump mounted on the built in pump bracket, same direction of flow, etc)

Also, I agree that you should move your in/out on the top rad to the back of the case for less criss-crossing and shorter runs, etc. I would also go straight out of the top GPU right up into the top rad, then back down to the CPU, and over to a tube res. That's exactly how I have it in my mock-up below. I know you're probably not doing a tube res because your motherboard separates the two graphics cards too much so the bottom one is too low and would hit the backer. However, you could always modify the bracket so that the indentation/cut-out for the graphics card goes down low enough, or just remove the bracket and mount a res directly to the motherboard tray in the same spot, just without the actual bracket. OR, there's always the second res mount at the back of the case next to the rear exhaust fan. The only thing with that is it makes cable runs longer to the pump, and cramps things a little, but still worth it over a bay res. Plus, the Enthoo has plenty of ways to hide tubing runs in the huge compartment in the back.

Here's my mock-up:


@Kinaesthetic - what's wrong with the Monsoon 90 and 45 adaptors? They are quite different looking but seem pretty nice to me. I'm going with gold Monsoon fittings and Monsoon is the only company I know of that makes gold. Is there anything wrong with using the Monsoon adapters? I suppose since I'm using white tubing, I could use white right-angle Bitspower fittings if I have to.

Hey ADragg,

yeah, I'm trying to avoid drilling into this case and was hoping I could've fit a tube res with the bracket. Do you know if there are the appropriate mounting holes there even if I remove the bracket?

Also, with a larger 480 I think there will be no room for the rear exhaust fan if I route the tubing on that side. I also have this motherboard which has a very large IO shroud. I don't know if I can squeeze a tube over it.


Is this not too tight of a fit? I will also have fans in push-pull..
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