Originally Posted by tsm106
Right... anyone attached to the projects is under NDA. My wife is under NDA all the time and even she won't tell me things regarding her industry. Someone posting they know this on the INTERNET of all places, and proclaiming they used that which is still weeks away from release on the market... right. Totally believable! Full credit and respect yo!
There is a HUGE difference between a long-term contractual, vendor-based NDA and a case by case filing.
Your wife, likely signed a case by case that's governed by a general contract.
As a vendor, I have a generalized, blanket NDA that really only covers product under R&D. I receive a courtesy release with every sample that basically says, "Don't do X Y or Z or, we're not sending you samples, anymore".
The only situation I've actually been reprimanded thus far, for...Was the 590...Because I leaked the pricing a few days before launch...In fact, I created the thread...
Originally Posted by Durquavian
You gotta stop being so shortsighted. If all companies thought like you they would be dead in a short time. AMD needed to change the software that thus far was inhibiting their performance ie: ICC. No amount of server progress or enthusiast chips were gonna change that. However console domination would. It gets games to have to structure to AMDs architecture including compilers. This includes graphics software used to make the games. You can see the snowball rolling down the hill here.
Not to mention getting HSA out there for software implementation.
I'm not being shortsighted, actually...I'm looking at risk vs. reward.
AMD bid the contract price so high that, their margin is literally under $10. In the console world, there's never been a margin so small. In the tech world, itself, there have only been a handful of products that drop that low and it's AFTER low sales do they hack the price down to that.
Is that bad? No. I'm not saying it is but, it's crippling to a small company like AMD.
Nvidia didn't bid further because the revenue wasn't there. I believe the #'s were, it will take AMD something like 2.5 years to recoup and start profiting.
2.5 years in the tech world might as well be an eternity.
That income that was dumped on this project has sucked up at least 6 other MAJOR projects I can think of, off the top of my head, that were actually pretty damned revolutionary in terms of server architecture. The server market needs an infusion and many of us were hoping it was coming...Then the "console wars" started...Now, 2-3 years if we're lucky.
Am I saying that AMD is going to fail? No...But, what I'm saying is that as a company, this could end up being a huge mistake in regards to what could have hit the market NOW as opposed to the consoles.
Time will tell.