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Will send some pics when I get home, I can't think of any remotely easy way of doing this, just hoping that shooting over some pics might help someone find an easier way... At least easier than I am able to surmise...

No way man. If your GPU temps are that good your rads and loop are fine.

It's the mounting of the Raystorm is my diagnosis. Have you had good results with it previously? Because I was running a 4790k on mine for a little while and it had one core that was 26C above the rest. I pulled it off and I had put way too much TIM on there. It had a nasty scratch in it too. I spent a couple hours lapping it to 3000grit and slapped it back on with a very thin layer of Gelid XT and voila it was doing fine again.
post #10412 of 14839
I'm considering of getting a open box of that board for 325$ on ebay and add a used I7 4820k for 226$ instead of z97 and i7 4790k. Should I get it? I'm really hesitating. I like the audio, the OC pannel the wireless AC and overclocking potential of the board. But that's much all I need. The other part of that board are kinda pointless to me. Would recommend me that board guys?
post #10413 of 14839
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No way man. If your GPU temps are that good your rads and loop are fine.

It's the mounting of the Raystorm is my diagnosis. Have you had good results with it previously? Because I was running a 4790k on mine for a little while and it had one core that was 26C above the rest. I pulled it off and I had put way too much TIM on there. It had a nasty scratch in it too. I spent a couple hours lapping it to 3000grit and slapped it back on with a very thin layer of Gelid XT and voila it was doing fine again.

I pulled the block off first thing, and I have never seen a more perfect TIM application, it had worked fine in my previous rig, and I did disassemble it for cleaning, but put it back together as I found it (at least I am very confident that I did), the base is a mirror, no nicks or scratches of any kind... The only thing I can think is that I assembled the block incorrectly...
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I'm considering of getting a open box of that board for 325$ on ebay and add a used I7 4820k for 226$ instead of z97 and i7 4790k. Should I get it? I'm really hesitating. I like the audio, the OC pannel the wireless AC and overclocking potential of the board. But that's much all I need. The other part of that board are kinda pointless to me. Would recommend me that board guys?

The 4790K outperforms the 4820K, beck, the 3770K outperforms the 4820K, so unless you desperately need the 40 lanes or the quad channel, I would advise against...
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I'm considering of getting a open box of that board for 325$ on ebay and add a used I7 4820k for 226$ instead of z97 and i7 4790k. Should I get it? I'm really hesitating. I like the audio, the OC pannel the wireless AC and overclocking potential of the board. But that's much all I need. The other part of that board are kinda pointless to me. Would recommend me that board guys?

I have a 4.8Ghz 4790k and a z97 Hero sitting here unused. I literally just switched to this board and a 4820k. I'm very happy with it.

The 4790k is a little faster than my 4.6Ghz 4820k, but it makes zero practical difference. What does make a huge difference:
Not having to delid the 4820k and getting better temps even though I delidded the 4790k.

This board is solid. Even the Asmedia USB3&SATA3 controllers are excellent imo.
post #10415 of 14839
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Originally Posted by Sam60I View Post

I'm considering of getting a open box of that board for 325$ on ebay and add a used I7 4820k for 226$ instead of z97 and i7 4790k. Should I get it? I'm really hesitating. I like the audio, the OC pannel the wireless AC and overclocking potential of the board. But that's much all I need. The other part of that board are kinda pointless to me. Would recommend me that board guys?

If you're going for the board, which is great btw, then go for a 3930k or 4930k instead.

Just get the 4790k if you just want/ need 4 cores 8 threads
    
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Alright, I got it sorted... As much as I would LOVE to say it wasn't my fault, it was... During assembly I was a bit excited, and although I put the mid plate in correctly, I turned the block 90°, now she's flowing beautifully!

Thanks all for the advice!
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Alright, I got it sorted... As much as I would LOVE to say it wasn't my fault, it was... During assembly I was a bit excited, and although I put the mid plate in correctly, I turned the block 90°, now she's flowing beautifully!

Thanks all for the advice!

Sweet success! Good work mate!
post #10418 of 14839
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I have read and watched a thousand guides on water cooling, and EVERYONE says there is no difference between 3/8 and 1/2 tubing... I have even seen benchmarks that prove it... So I am at a loss on that.

I wish I could recall the guide author and forum. When I first started out I had read a popular guide that said something along the lines of "bigger tubing is better for flow which means better temps". Granted this was 6 or 7 years ago when I first started out and now we have rigid acrylic tubing rigs, lga2011v3 systems, and crysis isn't the be all end all for game benchmarking lol.
    
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I wish I could recall the guide author and forum. When I first started out I had read a popular guide that said something along the lines of "bigger tubing is better for flow which means better temps". Granted this was 6 or 7 years ago when I first started out and now we have rigid acrylic tubing rigs, lga2011v3 systems, and crysis isn't the be all end all for game benchmarking lol.

6-7 yrs ago G1/4 wasn't nearly the standard fitting size in watercooling like it is today. Back then you might just as easily have had a loop of all G3/8 fittings where the flow through the larger ID ports and fittings along with a larger diameter tubing wouldn't have been bottlenecked at every fitting so it might actually have made a much larger difference. As it is with the ID of today's G1/4 fittings being more or less equivalent to 3/8" ID tubing having tubing with a larger ID than that isn't likely to make very much of a difference if at all.
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I wish I could recall the guide author and forum. When I first started out I had read a popular guide that said something along the lines of "bigger tubing is better for flow which means better temps". Granted this was 6 or 7 years ago when I first started out and now we have rigid acrylic tubing rigs, lga2011v3 systems, and crysis isn't the be all end all for game benchmarking lol.

Agree with Unicr0n, my temps are much BETTER having moved from 1/2" ID, I did add aamici larger radiator, but my temps actually didn't drop as significantly as I might have expected... Which tells me that the whole 1/2" tubing equals bigger FPS! is a non-issue. Between all of the bends, turns twists, nano-fin blocks (not nearly allowing 3/8" of flow, let alone 1/2"), I don't see much difference it could make...
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