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I have gone back to using the onboard RealTek sound for now as my Sound Blaster card has been removed from the system until Creative Labs can fix the sound issues they have been having. I have a few questions about the onboard sound.
1. Where is the RealTek control panel that used to sit in the systray? I even went and loaded up the MB disc and the only thing I could find were the drivers. I installed them but still no software...
2. Can you change the DAC's on this MB? I think I can but am not sure, I remember reading about it somewhere.
3. If I can change the DAC's where can I get some and what might be a good set to get for this MB?

Installing the drivers does install the sound manager software, that's how Realtek drivers work - it's all wrapped up in one.

Not sure about the DAC.... I think the board has one built in, but I'm not sure it's swappable.

FYI, you can use Creative's MB3 software to control the Realtek hardware and unlock most of the X-Fi functionality on the Realtek chip.
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Installing the drivers does install the sound manager software, that's how Realtek drivers work - it's all wrapped up in one.

Not sure about the DAC.... I think the board has one built in, but I'm not sure it's swappable.

FYI, you can use Creative's MB3 software to control the Realtek hardware and unlock most of the X-Fi functionality on the Realtek chip.

FYI, the issues I have with my SB card are software oriented, so who's to say that program doesn't also have sound problems. I am not willing to dish out $30 for a program that may or may not work correctly.

I'm just about done with the Sound Blaster series. It seems that since I had the card sound issues keep popping up every so often.

Back in the late 90's, I went with a Turtle Beach card because it was cheaper and had more features than the comparable SB card. That card was awesome.
Unfortunately I am not up on recent sound card vendors. W

Who makes a good sound card comparable to the Sound Blaster Zx card? It has to have optical out with at least support for 5.1 dolby....... Less expensive would be awesome also. I paid like $65 originally for this card though nowadays I think it runs closer to $100.
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post #13173 of 14602
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FYI, the issues I have with my SB card are software oriented, so who's to say that program doesn't also have sound problems. I am not willing to dish out $30 for a program that may or may not work correctly.

I'm just about done with the Sound Blaster series. It seems that since I had the card sound issues keep popping up every so often.

Back in the late 90's, I went with a Turtle Beach card because it was cheaper and had more features than the comparable SB card. That card was awesome.
Unfortunately I am not up on recent sound card vendors. W

Who makes a good sound card comparable to the Sound Blaster Zx card? It has to have optical out with at least support for 5.1 dolby....... Less expensive would be awesome also. I paid like $65 originally for this card though nowadays I think it runs closer to $100.

Honestly going to be the bad news bear here smile.gif. "Who makes a good sound card comparable to the Sound Blaster Zx card" No one sound cards are no longer what they use to be. Years ago on board sound sucked and buying a sound card improved your audio quality, however things have changed the RIVBEs stock sound card is better than your sound blaster, if you are not prepared to shell out over 200 you are not going to get a sound card that will show any benefit (even then it will be hard).

Company's dont make sound cards anymore, they cant compete with the on board. If you want better audio look at a USB external DAC, even better a full stack, this is going to cost a lot more than 100 dollars but 100 dollar sound cards are literally just throwing money away.

Then of course comes the question of being worth the cost? Is it worth it for a DAC which will cost a whole lot. It can be if you are an audiophile and have good headphones (or stereo) that its pushing however I checked your Sig and you dont. You are buying into gimmicks, if you want good audio buy some good cans, or a high end stereo (IE not PC speakers because they all suck, defiantly not going to cost 300 dollars).

With your speakers you wont tell a difference between your RIVBE onboard or a 2k DAC.
Edited by Cyber Locc - 1/25/16 at 9:06pm
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Honestly going to be the bad news bear here smile.gif. "Who makes a good sound card comparable to the Sound Blaster Zx card" No one sound cards are no longer what they use to be. Years ago on board sound sucked and buying a sound card improved your audio quality, however things have changed the RIVBEs stock sound card is better than your sound blaster, if you are not prepared to shell out over 200 you are not going to get a sound card that will show any benefit (even then it will be hard).

Company's dont make sound cards anymore, they cant compete with the on board. If you want better audio look at a USB external DAC, even better a full stack, this is going to cost a lot more than 100 dollars but 100 dollar sound cards are literally just throwing money away.

Then of course comes the question of being worth the cost? Is it worth it for a DAC which will cost a whole lot. It can be if you are an audiophile and have good headphones (or stereo) that its pushing however I checked your Sig and you dont. You are buying into gimmicks, if you want good audio buy some good cans, or a high end stereo (IE not PC speakers because they all suck, defiantly not going to cost 300 dollars).

With your speakers you wont tell a difference between your RIVBE onboard or a 2k DAC.

Actually my Sound Blaster Zx card is much better than the onboard sound (when it is working correctly). Adding to that is all the extra cinematic effects I can use through my Zx sound card.

Would anyone here know if the ASUS Xonar DX 7.1 comparable to the Zx card?
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What sound issues? My SB-Z is working, just NOT UNDER LINUX. They are unable to copy technical documentation and allow Linux developers to make drivers.


Also yes onboard sound is worse than SB-Z, which is worse by 1/10 than Burr-Brown. (But SB-Z has better strings. Burn-Brown has softer sound.) I think to have optical in and out is completely necessary.

BTW onboard sound works under Linux.
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What sound issues? My SB-Z is working, just NOT UNDER LINUX. They are unable to copy technical documentation and allow Linux developers to make drivers.


Also yes onboard sound is worse than SB-Z, which is worse by 1/10 than Burr-Brown. (But SB-Z has better strings. Burn-Brown has softer sound.) I think to have optical in and out is completely necessary.

BTW onboard sound works under Linux.

If you read back some I have a pop/crack sound that is associated with the enhanced features (aka encoder options) of the card. Windows wants to shut down the enhanced features because it is causing problems. Creative tech support is supposedly working on the problem. I am not the only one who is having problems with Sound Blaster sound cards. I have windows 10 and there are others with issues that are under earlier versions of windows. My onboard sound works fine in windows 10 but it is not as good as the Zx card sound.
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Can the Wifi onboard the RIVBE cause sound issues like I am having. I have it enabled but I have not used it in awhile and the creative tech recommended I turn that off along with lowering my bit depth from 24 bit to 16bit. But the issue is my setting have always been set this way and it was not until about a month or so ago that this pop/crack showed up.

If doing those things solve my problem then is it still safe to say that it is a driver or software issue?

Edit: It most definitely is not my wifi. I have a big update as I think my latest windows update will not allow me to use the advanced features of the software. If you would like to see more and maybe offer some advice look to this thread here on the OC forums.
Edited by Madmaxneo - 1/27/16 at 9:13pm
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Folks can you post round trip latency DRAM IO/L and other stuff when RAM timings on your board is on auto, for these RAM frequencies: 1333, 1600, 1866, (2000)? Basically run memTweakIt, and post screenshot of timings number 3. (You might do 1.25 strap as well, but I'd guess they are the same.)

I seen something weird, and considering my long term problems with board, I wanna to check something. (Actually I asked about that Asus support year and half ago and they replied they don't support linux.)
I asked today this question in live chat on Asus support page. The person who did support was in shock and recommended me to write an official question through standard form.

Scary stuff.
post #13179 of 14602
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Can the Wifi onboard the RIVBE cause sound issues like I am having. I have it enabled but I have not used it in awhile and the creative tech recommended I turn that off along with lowering my bit depth from 24 bit to 16bit. But the issue is my setting have always been set this way and it was not until about a month or so ago that this pop/crack showed up.

If doing those things solve my problem then is it still safe to say that it is a driver or software issue?

Edit: It most definitely is not my wifi. I have a big update as I think my latest windows update will not allow me to use the advanced features of the software. If you would like to see more and maybe offer some advice look to this thread here on the OC forums.

I've had crackling/popping problems with my x-fi pcie card in the past when the card was either physically too close to another component (namely, adjacent to a gpu), and also when it shares a pcie lane with a gpu. For example, if I put my x-fi card in the bottom slot, meaning it shares lanes with the secondary gpu in slot 3, for some reason the gpu pcie causes conflicts with the pcie lanes diverted to the soundcard in the bottom slot.

I haven't read back too far in this thread, so I'm not sure if this is the exact problem you're having, but fwiw I've had zero issues since I put my x-fi in the slot BETWEEN the gpu's so that it's not sharing lanes with either one and has its own dedicated lane assignment.

p.s. you can never depend on any solution Creative "support" suggests, their canned scripted responses might be useful for the average 98% pc-illiterate public, but they can rarely offer useful support to those of us who know what we're doing. We usually know a lot more than they do, and they're not adequately prepared to provide probing service.
Edited by chrisnyc75 - 1/28/16 at 11:44am
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I've had crackling/popping problems with my x-fi pcie card in the past when the card was either physically too close to another component (namely, adjacent to a gpu), and also when it shares a pcie lane with a gpu. For example, if I put my x-fi card in the bottom slot, meaning it shares lanes with the secondary gpu in slot 3, for some reason the gpu pcie causes conflicts with the pcie lanes diverted to the soundcard in the bottom slot.

I haven't read back too far in this thread, so I'm not sure if this is the exact problem you're having, but fwiw I've had zero issues since I put my x-fi in the slot BETWEEN the gpu's so that it's not sharing lanes with either one and has its own dedicated lane assignment.

p.s. you can never depend on any solution Creative "support" suggests, their canned scripted responses might be useful for the average 98% pc-illiterate public, but they can rarely offer useful support to those of us who know what we're doing. We usually know a lot more than they do, and they're not adequately prepared to provide probing service.

I know Creative support is not that good. But I am trying all avenues to hopefully find a way to get my card working again. If you didn't go to the thread I gave a link to a thread where I explain my situation has changed. Now it seems, as of my last update windows has automatically shut off the advanced features so that whenever I try to use them I get no sound from my PC and I get errors whenever I try playing audio files. Here is the link to the post again if you want more info.
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