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you can just restart a second time and the settings should just be back if i understand your problem correctly, another thing to talk about is a UPS !
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post #13202 of 14918
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you can just restart a second time and the settings should just be back if i understand your problem correctly, another thing to talk about is a UPS !
I know what your thinking but. I dont think thats the issue.

If I shut the computer down correctly, then turn it back on it still wipes the settings.

As to a UPS I have looked before but they are tough to find for me. I would use one but I aint paying the prices they want lol. Best look at my sig hehehe. I have a 1600w power supply because I can and do max that sucker so a UPS for me is over a grand. and thats just one of 3 PCs in my room. I have dedicated 20 amp breakers for my PC lol because I was tripping the 15amp. 3 290xs running PT1 bios at 1.5v benching ya they dont make UPSes for me hehehe.

I also am not too worried about power outages, I keep my windows on its own drive all other files are on another drive games have there own drive important files and ones not used all the time are on my nas (is on a ups) if windows corrupts I reinstall it no bother most my programs are on my D drive and backed up as well. I can reinstall windows quick and do frequently its no issue.

I will try that though this weekend sometime. turning it on off then on after the message.
Edited by Cyber Locc - 2/5/16 at 9:32pm
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post #13203 of 14918
Alright guys update and things are weirder now.

If I do nothing but set my profile to XMP which changes the memory speed to 2400mhz , then shut down my pc correctly and turn off the PSU. Then I turn it back on it does its speel about restore bios settings.

When I do this my settings come back my ram is at 2400mhz, However if I set any kind of OC it resets everything. So it only wont restore settings if there is an overclock. Also when it resets because of an overclock my last modified still shows the settings I changed last.

So the bios and CMOS know what settings I want it just doesn't care it resets them anyway.
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So rather late than never haha. Latest member to the club tongue.gif
Got a second hand Black Edition yesterday to replace my std Rampage IV Extreme. Love the looks of the board. Cant wait to actually start playing around with it.
Had my 3960X at 4.6GHz with virtually stock volts so will see if she can match here. I can just hit 5Ghz with my chip but it requires a fairly big jump in voltage so im happy at 4.6 with hardly a bump up in voltage.
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post #13205 of 14918
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So rather late than never haha. Latest member to the club tongue.gif
Got a second hand Black Edition yesterday to replace my std Rampage IV Extreme. Love the looks of the board. Cant wait to actually start playing around with it.
Had my 3960X at 4.6GHz with virtually stock volts so will see if she can match here. I can just hit 5Ghz with my chip but it requires a fairly big jump in voltage so im happy at 4.6 with hardly a bump up in voltage.
CPU-Z to come tongue.gif
Welcome!
Good luck with this beast of a board!
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As promised
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Oh and my delight i now have to somehow reactivate windows again mad.gifmad.gifmad.gif
   
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post #13207 of 14918
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I know what your thinking but. I dont think thats the issue.

If I shut the computer down correctly, then turn it back on it still wipes the settings.

As to a UPS I have looked before but they are tough to find for me. I would use one but I aint paying the prices they want lol. Best look at my sig hehehe. I have a 1600w power supply because I can and do max that sucker so a UPS for me is over a grand. and thats just one of 3 PCs in my room. I have dedicated 20 amp breakers for my PC lol because I was tripping the 15amp. 3 290xs running PT1 bios at 1.5v benching ya they dont make UPSes for me hehehe.

I also am not too worried about power outages, I keep my windows on its own drive all other files are on another drive games have there own drive important files and ones not used all the time are on my nas (is on a ups) if windows corrupts I reinstall it no bother most my programs are on my D drive and backed up as well. I can reinstall windows quick and do frequently its no issue.

I will try that though this weekend sometime. turning it on off then on after the message.

At LEAST pick up a line conditioner then... It seems you are not experienced with what a power outage/spike/or other can do to your hardware AND your data... But truly, data is the least of your problems.
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At LEAST pick up a line conditioner then... It seems you are not experienced with what a power outage/spike/or other can do to your hardware AND your data... But truly, data is the least of your problems.


Not really, at worst I get with a surge that takes my power supply out, my power supply will prevent further damage (hopefully but that doesn't always happen). The harddrives could fail due to power outages but thats about it.

"At LEAST pick up a line conditioner then..." I have a buddy that is an Electrical Engineer for the US military and I asked him about this before, he says and I quote "They are 100% worthless unless you have the worst power lines in the US, in 3rd world country's they have a purpose in the US they do not." He also says that Surge Protectors are worthless and a gimmick (I do use on of those though).

I know fully what a black out can do, I was a network administrator at ASU for almost 5 years......
Its not that I do not know the risks its that to me they are not worth dropping 2 grand on a UPS and doing so every few years when it goes bad. If in 10 years I lose 1 system to a surge well then that is still less than buying UPS's.

If I had a couple million worth of servers with irreplaceable data than it would be different. However for my home PC that is a few grand and has some games and windows install that I frequently redo its not such a big deal, to me but everyone is different.
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Not really, at worst I get with a surge that takes my power supply out, my power supply will prevent further damage (hopefully but that doesn't always happen). The harddrives could fail due to power outages but thats about it.

"At LEAST pick up a line conditioner then..." I have a buddy that is an Electrical Engineer for the US military and I asked him about this before, he says and I quote "They are 100% worthless unless you have the worst power lines in the US, in 3rd world country's they have a purpose in the US they do not." He also says that Surge Protectors are worthless and a gimmick (I do use on of those though).

I know fully what a black out can do, I was a network administrator at ASU for almost 5 years......
Its not that I do not know the risks its that to me they are not worth dropping 2 grand on a UPS and doing so every few years when it goes bad. If in 10 years I lose 1 system to a surge well then that is still less than buying UPS's.

If I had a couple million worth of servers with irreplaceable data than it would be different. However for my home PC that is a few grand and has some games and windows install that I frequently redo its not such a big deal, to me but everyone is different.

I find what your friend said to be questionable, at best... Particularly the bit about the surge suppressors... If you've ever monitored what can happen during a surge, I believe you might think differently. The line conditioner bit, perhaps he is correct in most cases, but when I lived up in northern MN for a few years, a line conditioner or Sine Wave UPS was absolutely necessary to avoid damage during normal mains operation, let alone during a power fault, I lost several PSU's, and more than one entire system due to the mains power there. I have not had any issues where I am currently, but in the past, without some sort of protection, even if just a surge suppressor (they have saved my gear many times), I have lost a LOT of electronic equipment, ranging from TV's, to computers, even lost my NES back in the 80's when an earthquake happened in California, also lost almost my entire house when the power was interrupted during a Tornado when I was down towards the Twin Cities about 10 years ago. Although I always had things behind a 'power strip', I was 'young' and arrogant, and thought something childish like, "Pffft. If they were necessary then...", so now, I use a Pure Sine Wave UPS, and everything is behind a surge suppressor. We have had several outages, including one night when my roommate was doing laundry drunk and thought the breaker blew, so he just started flipping breakers throughout the house randomly and repeatedly for several minutes at 2am, I woke up and pulled the dang knob on the washer and to his amazement it turned on... Needless to say, I flipped out on him for endangering the >$10,000 worth of computer equipment in my room. Freaking Jacktard!

Anyway, my experiences aside, better safe than sorry is always a good motto to live by. :-)

As well, something to consider, that would definitely be less expensive, is either to purchase a used UPS with faulty battery modules, and simply replace them (Which can be done with any SLA battery, or even a car battery if you live on the edge... lol), or you can just as well make your own UPS, which, although without the fancy features that the higher end units will have, it will at the very least do the part, and can be made for pennies by comparison... Maybe you could even buy a couple of consumer grade units and run them in parallel for sufficient capacity, although that was just a quick, popped in my head thought and I've no idea how realistic that idea is... I do know that you can increase the capacity of *most* consumer UPS units by simply adding more SLA batteries... Might be worth considering.
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I find what your friend said to be questionable, at best... Particularly the bit about the surge suppressors... If you've ever monitored what can happen during a surge, I believe you might think differently. The line conditioner bit, perhaps he is correct in most cases, but when I lived up in northern MN for a few years, a line conditioner or Sine Wave UPS was absolutely necessary to avoid damage during normal mains operation, let alone during a power fault, I lost several PSU's, and more than one entire system due to the mains power there. I have not had any issues where I am currently, but in the past, without some sort of protection, even if just a surge suppressor (they have saved my gear many times), I have lost a LOT of electronic equipment, ranging from TV's, to computers, even lost my NES back in the 80's when an earthquake happened in California, also lost almost my entire house when the power was interrupted during a Tornado when I was down towards the Twin Cities about 10 years ago. Although I always had things behind a 'power strip', I was 'young' and arrogant, and thought something childish like, "Pffft. If they were necessary then...", so now, I use a Pure Sine Wave UPS, and everything is behind a surge suppressor. We have had several outages, including one night when my roommate was doing laundry drunk and thought the breaker blew, so he just started flipping breakers throughout the house randomly and repeatedly for several minutes at 2am, I woke up and pulled the dang knob on the washer and to his amazement it turned on... Needless to say, I flipped out on him for endangering the >$10,000 worth of computer equipment in my room. Freaking Jacktard!

Anyway, my experiences aside, better safe than sorry is always a good motto to live by. :-)

As well, something to consider, that would definitely be less expensive, is either to purchase a used UPS with faulty battery modules, and simply replace them (Which can be done with any SLA battery, or even a car battery if you live on the edge... lol), or you can just as well make your own UPS, which, although without the fancy features that the higher end units will have, it will at the very least do the part, and can be made for pennies by comparison... Maybe you could even buy a couple of consumer grade units and run them in parallel for sufficient capacity, although that was just a quick, popped in my head thought and I've no idea how realistic that idea is... I do know that you can increase the capacity of *most* consumer UPS units by simply adding more SLA batteries... Might be worth considering.


Those Surge protectors, those do work kind of but that is the problem. from what I have read and what he told me I gather this. They do stop a surge but only 1 time, and even a small surge can set them off and most power lines have small surges quite frequently. So when you have a small spike surge that wouldn't have hurt anything the "Surge Protector" trips its 1 time internals and then you turn it back on or it doesn't even turn off. Know when you get hit by a large surge that would fry components it no longer has the ability to stop the surge. It would seem though in my looking to find a good article for you that there is diffrent types of surge protectors so that is something to take into account. Now that I know this I am going to look for better oens smile.gif.

Anyway here is a good post about surge protectors. http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-lcd-flat-panel-displays/875254-11-myths-surge-protection.html
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