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Is this list valid or is there anything missing?

http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-ASUS/RAMPAGE_IV_BLACK_EDITION.html
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That shows you how long I've been out of the game LOL any news on bios updates I'm still running 403 without a problem with a 4.8 overclock anyone? Advice would be much appreciated if you ain't broke don't fix it perhaps
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SB-E needed the registry hack, IVB-E(4960x) doesn't need it as pci-E 3.0 is already implemented.
That shows you how long I've been out of the game LOL any news on bios updates I'm still running 403 without a problem with a 4.8 overclock anyone? Advice would be much appreciated if you ain't broke don't fix it perhaps
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So what are the advantages of the Xeons on this board xompared to an equivalently specced 4930K, for example?

Do they clock better? Fold better? Better for rendering or video editing?
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So what are the advantages of the Xeons on this board xompared to an equivalently specced 4930K, for example?

Do they clock better? Fold better? Better for rendering or video editing?

I am seeing some claims that they overclock better, however it's hard to find people using them so take that with a grain.

Other than that basic xeon benefiets, ECC Memory, a larger cache and a few more instruction sets.

As for how that pans out in real world that heavily depends if you use ECC memory with the chip (does a rivbe support ecc?). And if the program in question can support the other instruction sets or benefited from a higher cache.

In the cases you listed yes I think there may be some gains in those uses.
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I ordered an E5-1650 V2 so I'll report back once I get everything assembled on the bench. biggrin.gif

I think this is a really good topic to be honest because IMHO the ONLY REASON I am still running on this X5470 (with (2)980Ti's on blocks) is because intel has rested on their laurels for about 8 years (or we're simply screwed and CPUs will never get significantly faster.. think that new 5.1Ghz Xeon is B$??). When X79 lauched it was crazy expensive and the lame X99 is making it easier to get into X79 smile.gif

As far as my experience with S775, my Xeon X5470 was a night/day difference with regard to overclocking ability compared to my previous Q6600, Q9550 and QX9770 CPUs in the same motherboard using the same ram. The X5470 has a 10x multi stock which means it is practically an unlocked CPU so no an X5470 isn't 100% unlocked but with a 10x..who cares smile.gif.

All I could get out of my QX9770 was 4.2Ghz no matter what (maybe it was a dud.. I don't know..) and with the X5470 I'm getting almost 4.6Ghz. Same exact system and components just a CPU change. I haven't run out of O/C headroom either yet my temps are just too high to go further. In addition (surprisingly) I was able to run my memory at higher speeds with the Xeon X5470 than I could with the QX9770 (I am not sure why, these CPUs do NOT have an integrated memory controller). I'll include some screenshots for those who remember S775, I'm pretty proud of this one (and yes I'm using 4 sticks of ram).If you are familiar with the 775's and especially the 790i Ultra chipset you can agree this is no easy task. Look at the memory latency, top of the pack beating CPUs that DO have an integrated memory controller. tongue.gif

My Xeon X5470 (Click to show)
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Not too shabby post-flame-small.gif


AFAIK ALL the Xeons are going to be higher bins and for that reason alone better overclocking is possible. It is also silicon lottery of course. When you get a Xeon that has an unlocked Multi, I would consider that the "Holy grail" of CPUs... I really can't say from personal experience as I've only owned one Xeon but my results seem to be on par with what others also get. I really don't think I was all that "lucky" I just took the time to tweak. I am just one person but I think if running a Xeon was just completely pointless there wouldn't be nearly as much buzz about doing it as there is.. It is definitely possible, people are doing it and for socket 775 is was HANDS DOWN the best choice to run on that platform. The QX9770 doesn't even come close.

I'm betting on another round of Xeon success with S2011! Good times! We shall see! thumb.gif


EDIT: Adding this nugget http://news.softpedia.com/news/Intel-May-Release-Unlocked-Xeon-E5-CPUs-in-2012-236174.shtml
Edited by Laithan - 2/15/16 at 5:53pm
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The RIVBE doesn't seem to support ECC memory.... Does that influence the Xeons performance or capabilities (for consumer standard usage) in any way?



An X5470, nice!
I'm running an Q9650 in the secondary but never dared to clock it higher then 3.4 GHz although I'm running 1200MHz memory and the multiplier at 8.0 (3.2GHz)... Usually the setup runs at 9x with the memory at 800MHz, so 3.0GHz.
I have no idea about the voltages of that system anymore though...
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The RIVBE doesn't seem to support ECC memory.... Does that influence the Xeons performance or capabilities (for consumer standard usage) in any way?



An X5470, nice!
I'm running an Q9650 in the secondary but never dared to clock it higher then 3.4 GHz although I'm running 1200MHz memory and the multiplier at 8.0 (3.2GHz)... Usually the setup runs at 9x with the memory at 800MHz, so 3.0GHz.
I have no idea about the voltages of that system anymore though...

No it doesnt, it changes one aspect of why a Xeon is better. The Xeon still has F16C and EM64T instruction sets which the I7 does not.

However in the case of the 1650v2 it actually has less cache than a I7 4930k,

Here is a good comparison http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-E5-1650-v2-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4930K

The I7 wins in Geek bench single and multi, with the Xeon winning in AES single.

I do have to agree with Laithan, I do believe that Xeons are binned better so may overclock better.

The man to ask would be tooshort as he seems to have a few Xeons and I assume I7s as well.
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No it doesnt, it changes one aspect of why a Xeon is better. The Xeon still has F16C and EM64T instruction sets which the I7 does not.

However in the case of the 1650v2 it actually has less cache than a I7 4930k,

Here is a good comparison http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Xeon-E5-1650-v2-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4930K

The I7 wins in Geek bench single and multi, with the Xeon winning in AES single.

I do have to agree with Laithan, I do believe that Xeons are binned better so may overclock better.

The man to ask would be tooshort as he seems to have a few Xeons and I assume I7s as well.
Hm interesting. I have no clue how those instructions affect performance and what programs would benefit from it... Maybe they only work with ECC memory?

Also the OC speed on water seems to be way off for the Xeon on that page. I'd also be interested to see a comparison of the two when folding, but I'm sure the difference would be marginal.
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Hm interesting. I have no clue how those instructions affect performance and what programs would benefit from it... Maybe they only work with ECC memory?

Also the OC speed on water seems to be way off for the Xeon on that page. I'd also be interested to see a comparison of the two when folding, but I'm sure the difference would be marginal.

I think you would have to check on a program to program basis, I am honestly not sure either.

On CPU boss? or the ones I linked? 4.7ghz with his not very large loop is very high for an i7 4930k that it would compare to. Most people with 4930ks are very lucky to hit 4.5, or at least thats the most they run it at.
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