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I'm no happy with that look, what do you suggest?

Not intended to use rigid tubes.


Your CPU socket has some condensation protection, you're using TEC cooling?
post #5632 of 14842
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Originally Posted by Raghar View Post

If you have money and wanna play with underclocking, you might try 2400MHz, and downclock to run it at 2133 MHz at 1.5 V. Or simply grab some 1.5 V high speed kit. 1.35 V 1866 MHz RAM would be great (when you want cold RAM, or low power consumption/stress on your PSU). Majority of 1.5 V 2133 MHz RAM are decent.

Do you need 8x4 for speed, heat dissipation, or because of cost reasons? F3-14900CL9Q2-32GBZL (9-10-9-28-2N) These looked nice, and you can ask LunaP, who is just returning his kits for experience with his G.Skill RAM.

On the other hand, 4x8 GB might be less stressful for memory controller, and have less problems with heat dissipation. (Actually I wonder what are real world differences between 8x4GB and 4x8GB.)
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Originally Posted by Raghar View Post

If you have money and wanna play with underclocking, you might try 2400MHz, and downclock to run it at 2133 MHz at 1.5 V. Or simply grab some 1.5 V high speed kit. 1.35 V 1866 MHz RAM would be great (when you want cold RAM, or low power consumption/stress on your PSU). Majority of 1.5 V 2133 MHz RAM are decent.

Do you need 8x4 for speed, heat dissipation, or because of cost reasons? F3-14900CL9Q2-32GBZL (9-10-9-28-2N) These looked nice, and you can ask LunaP, who is just returning his kits for experience with his G.Skill RAM.

On the other hand, 4x8 GB might be less stressful for memory controller, and have less problems with heat dissipation. (Actually I wonder what are real world differences between 8x4GB and 4x8GB.)


Hello raghar thanks for your valuable advice .. In fact, I'm choosing 8x4 Gb for aesthetic vision. But my concern is just the controller, I mount the CPU 4930K think I'll have problems? Then one other thing I did not understand but if I take a 8x4 1866 1.5 volt kit is great according to you or the voltage should be 1.65? Thanks aspect of your advice ..
post #5633 of 14842
Really, with either 4930k or 4960x there is no IMC limitation like there was with 3930k/3960x/3970x...
There shouldn't be any issue with 8x4Gb (like I have) up to 2400Mhz or 4x8Gb at same rated speed.
If you choose a ram set tested on x79 platform such as the ripjaw Z (xmp 1.2), it's easy as cake, set xmp profile and voila.
If you take a ram set tested on z87 platform (xmp 1.3), you might need to set the secondary timings manually and that is all. wink.gif
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Really, with either 4930k or 4960x there is no IMC limitation like there was with 3930k/3960x/3970x...
There shouldn't be any issue with 8x4Gb (like I have) up to 2400Mhz or 4x8Gb at same rated speed.
If you choose a ram set tested on x79 platform such as the ripjaw Z (xmp 1.2), it's easy as cake, set xmp profile and voila.
If you take a ram set tested on z87 platform (xmp 1.3), you might need to set the secondary timings manually and that is all. wink.gif
Thank you very much to you Kimir now I always have a better idea ..
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Originally Posted by Kimir View Post

Really, with either 4930k or 4960x there is no IMC limitation like there was with 3930k/3960x/3970x...
There shouldn't be any issue with 8x4Gb (like I have) up to 2400Mhz or 4x8Gb at same rated speed.
If you choose a ram set tested on x79 platform such as the ripjaw Z (xmp 1.2), it's easy as cake, set xmp profile and voila.
If you take a ram set tested on z87 platform (xmp 1.3), you might need to set the secondary timings manually and that is all. wink.gif

You haven't had my CPUs. IMC limits definitely exist. I have one chip that can do 2800 without any volt increase. But getting over 26000 MB in Memtest86 is hard. Other chips...have issues with even 2133 MHz, and need volt increase.
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Thanks. XMP doesn't work for me on my two Corsair kits, I am just trying to run stock with most settings at AUTO (=XMP settings). The system shuts down under stress in a second or two. tongue.gif Both are quad kits and not trying to run them at the same time. Both kits need XMP disabled and manually setting at least VTT, VCCSA, Vcore, VCCSA LLC, Vcore LLC and so on.

By manually tuning every one of these settings, I got it stable. I have Corsair AX1200 PSU. So I can do it, but it's not easy.

With everything on AUTO, no shutdowns. RAM is at 1333 MHz only then.

I wrote a "guide" on Haswell clocking, but it's very obtuse and general. Anyway, in that guide, I go over my testing routine...without running that routine, and seeing crashes, it's very hard to diagnose the cause of problems like this. It could simply be your chip (sounds like it to me), or as you indicate, that you are mixing kits. Memory is a capacitor...have mixed values of capacitance on separate channels, and you'll have issues.


OR it could be something simple like tWCL or TFAW.

I've had IVB and Haswell CPUs that can't clock memory worth a damn, so it's no surprise to find the same in IVB-E.
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Originally Posted by asfgbdnf View Post

Your CPU socket has some condensation protection, you're using TEC cooling?

For extreme overclocking I use the Hailea HC-500A waterchiller.
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Originally Posted by Kimir View Post

Really, with either 4930k or 4960x there is no IMC limitation like there was with 3930k/3960x/3970x...
Most of IvyB-e K chip can go 3000 easy (even 4000+ cold) but some can't even do 2933 which is a baseline for these chips
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Most of IvyB-e K chip can go 3000 easy (even 4000+ cold) but some can't even do 2933 which is a baseline for these chips

That's the ticket, is it? 4930K?


I know you binned many chips, and wondered why you were stuck on 4930K. Would be interesting to see 5 GHz on 4820 @<200W
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Originally Posted by cadaveca View Post

That's the ticket, is it? 4930K?


I know you binned many chips, and wondered why you were stuck on 4930K. Would be interesting to see 5 GHz on 4820 @<200W
4930/4960 for 3Ds and 4770K for 2Ds. 4820 has no competitive edges for those benches
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I just have not ever had a mobo break a GPU before, thank you for the info can you expound on this so I know what not to do with my settings so I dont break a GPU

More than likely user error especially if it was a GPU as that would be more controlled from windows.

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Originally Posted by Slinky PC View Post

Dear.. I was for 10 months #4, 6, and now 12+ on 3DMARK benchmarks because this mobo can do a sɥıʇ at this time.
If you want to protect your GPU play Tetris or ask asus a bios.

I've only seen fixes in the new bios. The board wouldn't affect that unless you somehow fried the slots o_o what the hell were you pushing on those cards? LOL
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ASUS designed first two bios for ladies that don't fit my build, I will be able to break one TITAN weekly with pleasure until the right bios will arrive.
Enjoy your motherboard thumb.gif

You still won't explain how the bios affects your GPU, did you end up messing w/ settings and forgot to set something or enabled LN2 + Extreme OV? I wouldn't dare go over 130% but it does go up to 160%

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Originally Posted by GOLDDUBBY View Post

asus wannabe gaming gear. yet people fall for it rolleyes.gif

.. guess i'll go for the Dark rather then the Black, if I get to impatient

@Gold I wouldn't let 1 comment steer you wrong there, especially at how there's no supportive information. G/L with the Dark though hopefully they've ironed out most of the issues.
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D5 from which manufacturer is the best?

For the love of Christ PLEASE learn to USE the EDIT button LOL posting multiple times over and over and over is just considered spam, you've been hit on this like 10x now xD!! #Lazynessiscraziness

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UP an running a new case, gotta get the real modding started! wink.gif


I miss my Air540 frown.gif I might make it my next case as its a beauty to see it all in a tiny box.

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That's a sleek looking case there!

Yar that new silver Carbide Air 540 is nice, hoping they make a 640 this year.
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I use those titans for 10 months on extreme with Rive daily with no problems. In less there two months with R4BE break 2 of them in the last 7 days. I find this board very boring because all bios restrictions. What you guys tested with Ln2 don't have nothing to do with water cooling. I am very interested to know how many i7-4960X you broken there guys as with water-cooling is almost impossible to do it. I invite you guys to play Tetris with your 4-way sli on r4be. smile.gif be safe!


Wut? It gives you FULL access to literally EVERY bit and detail to tweak till your hearts content! LOL

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I can answer that very simply. There are profiles in the BIOS for specific 4 GB DIMM ICs of every flavor to help you get those most out of those sticks for benching, but none for 8 GB sticks. If you want to OC 8 GB sticks, you are all on your own. If you know how to tweak timings already, or have the time and patience to test every setting, then you should have no problems...every option needed is there - but lacking that...

XMP works great. Don't mix kits.thumb.gif

Shutdown issue disappeared when I replaced my PSU. Or rather, when Thermaltake did. tongue.gif

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Mobo will go under water soonish!



Was hitting a wall at 4.7ghz... will see if the water block will help a bit.

PUSH IT PUSH IT PUSH IT biggrin.gif

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Originally Posted by Kimir View Post

Really, with either 4930k or 4960x there is no IMC limitation like there was with 3930k/3960x/3970x...
There shouldn't be any issue with 8x4Gb (like I have) up to 2400Mhz or 4x8Gb at same rated speed.
If you choose a ram set tested on x79 platform such as the ripjaw Z (xmp 1.2), it's easy as cake, set xmp profile and voila.
If you take a ram set tested on z87 platform (xmp 1.3), you might need to set the secondary timings manually and that is all. wink.gif

Yeah looks like I'll be going w/ the RJ's since there's no Trident X 64gb kits frown.gif

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Originally Posted by cadaveca View Post

You haven't had my CPUs. IMC limits definitely exist. I have one chip that can do 2800 without any volt increase. But getting over 26000 MB in Memtest86 is hard. Other chips...have issues with even 2133 MHz, and need volt increase.
I wrote a "guide" on Haswell clocking, but it's very obtuse and general. Anyway, in that guide, I go over my testing routine...without running that routine, and seeing crashes, it's very hard to diagnose the cause of problems like this. It could simply be your chip (sounds like it to me), or as you indicate, that you are mixing kits. Memory is a capacitor...have mixed values of capacitance on separate channels, and you'll have issues.


OR it could be something simple like tWCL or TFAW.

I've had IVB and Haswell CPUs that can't clock memory worth a damn, so it's no surprise to find the same in IVB-E.

Actually meant to ask, and just confirmed w/ G skill they're gonna give me the F3-19200CL10Q2-64GBZHD. That is the only kit they have on the market that is 64gb, runs at 2400Mhz with timings at 10-12-12-31.

It's newer than the Trident but blah, really did want to get my sets to work together.

I will ask though when I set things to auto to get my RAM @ 2133 I noticed VTT and VSCAA jumped to 1.25+ Is that safe? or would that overly damage anything? Vcor was still @ 1.25 at the time. Timings were alleviated @ 11-11-11-28 iirc.
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